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[Paul Eres]

Did you check the date on where Derek said that? I suspect he said that before the announcement.

[Javilop]

I'm not sure, but it appears in red color like something new: http://www.bit-blot.com/forum/index.php?topic=1426.0

[Paul Eres]

That reads Dec 17th, that's like 10 days ago. Still, it says v1.1.2 will be out soon and that it fixes some bug on ATI cards and Vista, so perhaps you should wait. I've v1.1.1 and Vista have experienced no problems, but I've an NVIDIA card rather than an ATI one.

[Javilop]

Thanks again. Well, I'm not in a hurry I'l wait.

By the way, are there screenshots out there of your game, rinkuhero?

Still, would be good to read to see if there's anything I missed.

I think maybe it would be the contrary: you will find some things that I maybe I'll miss.

[Paul Eres]

Do you mean the game I made the level editor for? Here's a oldish pic of the level editor (with the map overlay above it, but ignore that). Also ignore that it's only 18fps, I don't know why it's that low there, probably just a spike.

[Javilop]

Cool!

The one I'm making for the tutorial dosen't have gui / buttons. You have to control everything using keyboard / mouse. I'm trying to keep the code really simple, so people could extend it the way they prefer.

A shot of the wip:

[Javilop]

Ah! You made "Immortal Defense". I read bout it and looks cool. I'm going to give a try to it.

[Paul Eres]

Immortal Defense also has a level editor, but those don't use "maps" per se, just paths. So the level editor for ID works much like a spline editor.

Image: http://pics.livejournal.com/rinku/pic/000qtqfw

[Javilop]

I made some prototypes in the past using splines. But never used them ingame yet.

[Javilop]

WIP [9 hours of total work]

BackDrops
 (x) Translation
 (x) Rotation
 (x) Scaling
 (x) Transparency
 (x) Mirroring
 (x) Tiling
 (x) Layers
 (x) Z ordering inside each layer
 Parallax scrolling
 Morphing effects
 (x) Tinting
Camera
 (x) Zoom
 (x) Movements
IO
 Export XML
 Import XML

[Javilop]

The editor is finished. Now I'm going to start to write the tutorial.

In the screenshot you can see two levels of parallax. The parallax is afected by the camera movement and camera zoom. The effect of zooming is quite impressive

The sprites used are from lostgarden.com. I don't have my Aquaria version yet. Problems with Plimus

[Javilop]

Last screenshot. Next post, the tutorial. I think it would be finished in two days. I'm trying to make it easier to understand, but it's a hard task.

How impresive is Derek Yu's art! Thank you very much again for letting me to use it!

[Javilop]

40 hours for doing this! PUF!

I hope it would be useful for some of you! Derek, Alec, thank you very much again 

http://gametuto.com/in-game-c-map-editor-tutorial-with-indielib-engine-that-dosent-use-tiles-but-pieced-images-like-in-braid-or-aquaria-games/

FEEDBACK! Please, I'm not English speaker, if you see any mistakes (I'm sure I have a lot) could you report them here? Thank you very much!

[isaac]

I enjoyed reading this, even though it is a bit nitty-gritty and language/library specific for my tastes (I'm not a c++ coder, so all the code was over my head). Reading it does make me want to build a similar engine in Actionscript though!

I didn't notice any issues with the english, except that once you referred to IndieLib as 'him', which made me think of anthropomorphic graphics libraries which was cute enough that you shouldn't fix.

[Hayden Scott-Baron]

This is great, and especially helpful that you included the video. I have some interests in this sort of technique, and I've previously done tests with producing things in such a manner.

There are some serious challenges with producing appropriate artwork for a method such as this, and Aquaria manages this perfectly. That said, you also have to be respectful of how the artwork gets used, and some pieces may only have a small threshold of how much they can be rotated or scaled before it harms the illusion.