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« Reply #140 on: September 27, 2014, 12:31:12 PM »

still disappointed dashcon wasn't just a giant sonic convention

also this whole deal is just an incredible crock of shit
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« Reply #141 on: September 27, 2014, 01:57:22 PM »

Maybe they can give backers some of these instead.

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« Reply #142 on: September 28, 2014, 10:21:00 PM »

I laughed pretty hard when I first saw this a while ago.

Good. Yogscast suck. Where a bunch of 12 year old Minecraft-playing children got the money to muster up 500k for these guys I will never know.
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« Reply #143 on: September 29, 2014, 02:36:53 AM »

i mean homestuck got 2 million dollars

12 year olds is money
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« Reply #144 on: September 29, 2014, 04:01:26 AM »

The kids dig it.  Too bad they aren't too bright.

Where a bunch of 12 year old Minecraft-playing children got the money to muster up 500k for these guys I will never know.

Their parents.
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« Reply #145 on: September 29, 2014, 04:22:07 AM »


Looks like TUG will be going through some similar stuff then.
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« Reply #146 on: September 30, 2014, 04:41:20 AM »

just for some comparison, the potato salad kickstarter guy totally just came through and knocked it out of the park: http://kotaku.com/the-potato-salad-kickstarter-festival-actually-happened-1640680938

put on a big festival, gave $20,000 to charity, everybody had fun, backers are happy, and then raised EVEN MORE for charity. potato salad guy's joke kickstarter is putting our whole damn industry to shame.
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« Reply #147 on: September 30, 2014, 05:49:58 AM »

We lost to the potato salad guy.  Wrap it up guys, we're done here. Cry

http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/19/kickstarter-updates-terms-of-use-section-related-to-failed-projects/

Who's willing to bet this was change partially inspired by the Yogscast clusterfuck?
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« Reply #148 on: September 30, 2014, 06:48:04 AM »

http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/19/kickstarter-updates-terms-of-use-section-related-to-failed-projects/

Who's willing to bet this was change partially inspired by the Yogscast clusterfuck?
I suspected it to happen sooner or later. KS crew sure wouldn't want their site known for project creators getting away with the money, without delivering. Funny though, it's almost always those giant game projects having the problem reaching their goals, the ones would people trust the most with having their money.

Ks is for potatosalads.
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« Reply #149 on: September 30, 2014, 06:57:58 AM »

Wait a second, the potato salad thing scaled up into a festival? o_o (the stretch goals only said it'd be a party) I wonder if there will be people pushing to turn it into a yearly event.
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« Reply #150 on: September 30, 2014, 07:02:21 AM »

They built a statue from potatoes that they burned it, and they got high on potatoes, while listening to potatodelic rock.
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« Reply #151 on: September 30, 2014, 08:37:59 AM »

those kickstarter changes are fantastic news all around; think about the amount of times you've seen whiny complaints from whiners (though: whiners with a good point) who will say mmmnnEYEAAH that's why I don't do kickstarters, uh bc there's *spits* nothing keeping the other side of the equation from just takin' the money *snort* and running *inhaler* and now we have a thing that makes kickstarters way, way more of a safe bet, which is incredibly good for all of us planning on doing a kickstarter literally ever in the future
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« Reply #152 on: September 30, 2014, 09:18:11 AM »

Actually, it doesn't changes much, you already had the right to file a lawsuit, if they took your money and delivered nothing. Now it's just noted in their Terms Of Use.
But I guess it's a step to the right direction.

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« Reply #153 on: September 30, 2014, 09:27:48 AM »

even if you have the right to lawsuit (and, mind, that's a blanket near-universal right in the case of wrongdoing by a larger body) the concrete wording and stating in the TOS makes it far more real to the layman; the perceived safety net is what's important here, not the real one. i think it does changes a lot, honestly.
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« Reply #154 on: September 30, 2014, 09:30:54 AM »

They built a statue from potatoes that they burned it, and they got high on potatoes, while listening to potatodelic rock.

duuude what if, like, the whole universe is just a huge potato and we're the salad? far out maaaaan

btw what is a yogurtscast
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« Reply #155 on: September 30, 2014, 09:35:59 AM »

Well, I hope you're right then. Smiley

What I wonder is what happens if I file a lawsuit from Europe to someone at the USA, what kinda laws will be considred then, because those big kickstarter successes actually draw pledges internationally, not excusively from USA (or GB or Canada). So I wonder if there's any chance for someone who from Germany or Brazil to actually get back the money in foreseenable time? To me it still looks like it's mostly just a formal change from KS staff, made for self-protection.
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« Reply #156 on: September 30, 2014, 09:37:01 AM »

btw what is a yogurtscast

It's the ALUMINADE!
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« Reply #157 on: September 30, 2014, 11:00:13 AM »

Not only have they received 0.5M for nothing, a debacle like this could earn them quite some extra.
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« Reply #158 on: September 30, 2014, 12:59:19 PM »

btw what is a yogurtscast

It's the ALUMINADE!


OH FUCK WE'RE DONE FOR

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« Reply #159 on: September 30, 2014, 04:37:45 PM »

Actually, it doesn't changes much, you already had the right to file a lawsuit, if they took your money and delivered nothing. Now it's just noted in their Terms Of Use.
But I guess it's a step to the right direction.

Actually, it does provide points that allow the situation to be redeemed as well (e.g. if you refund the pledges then you're considered to have not breached the rules).

What I wonder is what happens if I file a lawsuit from Europe to someone at the USA, what kinda laws will be considred then, because those big kickstarter successes actually draw pledges internationally, not excusively from USA (or GB or Canada).

Considering how they have been handling stuff lately? Probably it'd fall under European laws, because the consumer was located in Europe.
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