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« Reply #1650 on: August 12, 2012, 11:48:24 AM » |
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Danrul, you actually did hit upon a few good points -- but I feel you were a bit too vitriolic, condescending, and you really glossed over some of the major problems he is going through.
Anyone willing to even attempt suicide in order 'to make you feel like you're in control' or to get 'attention and concern' does have a problem, and they do need help. And, by extension, I disagree with your sentiments on therapists. Therapists can help people through these issues, and they are not something to be blown off. Plenty of people doubt their use (even I do, many times), but they do help.
It's often very difficult for someone to help themselves in times like this, for a few reasons you yourself mentioned, such as cyclical depression (I am depressed, this makes me depressed; attempt to commit suicide, reaffirm suicidal thoughts), and while it's easy to say "Gosh, get a hold of yourself!", that is far harder than it seems.
Pixhead, I am glad you're going to seek help. I'm pretty sure there are volunteer therapists in places, but I have no clue how to contact them (sorry). However, you could try your local suicide hotline and see if they have further information (which I'm sure they do).
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« Reply #1651 on: August 12, 2012, 12:04:07 PM » |
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You're speaking to me like I haven't gone through the exact same thing, and like I haven't had to help half hte people I know and half my family through the exact same thing.
I'm not gonna dress up what I'm saying. I know this thread is about backpatting, sympathy and soft words, but saying "OH MY GOD YOU'RE GOING THROUGH SUCH HORRIBLE THINGS YOU'RE REALLY ON THE EDGE" does nothing but convince people that their problems are bigger than they are. Over-concern is as much of an issue as having no-one pay attention.
I'm gonna be vitriolic and condescending because I honestly think pixhead is being an idiot. I'm not gonna pay him sympathy because i know nothing about his problems, and its pretty much 50/50 that if I knew i'd actually think it was worth cutting yourself up over.
Every other person apart from me is gonna be tripping over themselves to recommend he goes to therapy, seeks help and changes his whole life. I'm gonna say that he just needs to get over himself and stop puffing up his problems.
If he wants to disregard me and call me an asshole so be it, and the rest of you can go nuts too.
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« Reply #1652 on: August 12, 2012, 12:06:58 PM » |
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It's not as easy as just "getting over yourself", though.
And just because you think someone is an idiot (which I disagree with, but okay) does not give you the right to be disrespectful. There's no need to be insulting or rude to someone who has done you no harm. Especially if you're trying to get them to listen to your advice.
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« Reply #1653 on: August 12, 2012, 12:18:22 PM » |
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I'm going to see if I can find someone to talk to for free because I am currently broke, but I will try to get some help.
I don't know what's your attidute towards this kind of thing, but if you need help and don't have any money then a nearby church could probably point you in a good direction. Just sayin, quietly. Liosan
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« Reply #1654 on: August 12, 2012, 01:04:29 PM » |
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It's tough knowing at which points you need to be tough on yourself, and at which points you have a deeper problem that needs more attention.
Mistaking one for the other, in either direction, is destructive. The trick is figuring out which problems are which.
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« Reply #1655 on: August 12, 2012, 03:38:41 PM » |
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I'm going to see if I can find someone to talk to for free because I am currently broke, but I will try to get some help. I'm in a really dark place right now, but maybe, just maybe, I can pull through. Thanks TIG, you guys are awesome and have always been here, I've gotten through a lot of problems by coming to this thread and hopefully ill get through this one too.
I don't know exactly how the situation is where you are, but there may be some mental health charities which can help with counselling. Sometimes these charities are tiny and local though. Your doctor or google may be able to help more.  (I will contradict Danrul and say get it seen to NOW, or it can bite you in the arse when you're older. If you have to take/do whatever to push stuff away, trying antidepressants may help with the annoying tiny circular thoughts while you deal with the big proper issues which are depressing you.)
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« Reply #1656 on: August 12, 2012, 04:35:49 PM » |
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@Danrul: I'm pretty much shitting on my previous statement of "Humility and good will hardly get the point across a lot of the time", but I believe that each person handles realization of their problems differently. I'm sure you'll disagree with me on this considering you just compared your own problems with pixhead's, calling them "the exact same thing". So while I agree that in some cases, it's nice to have a wake up call from others by being told you're overly dramatic, I prefer to err on the side of caution when it comes to mental issues specifically, especially since those kinds of tactics have never had a positive effect on me personally. I will totally agree with you on your third point about not eating random pills and self harm because you'll regret it later. Seriously @pixhead, cut that shit out and go out and get some help instead.
I don't think anyone here is "backpatting with sympathy and soft words" either, at least not in pixhead's case. I know I tried to make it fairly clear in my earlier post that I wouldn't bullshit it with the whole "things will get better" line, because I honestly don't believe they ever do, people just find ways of dealing with their issues. It seems like a lot of users here are throwing out legitimate ideas for help.
With that said, at this point in time I still wouldn't give any other advice then what I've already given and what others have said about seeking someone to communicate with, as well as socialaising more. There have been plenty of ideas discussed here about various ways to go about doing this and I'm sure more people will post other methods. Best of luck and again, keep us posted on the whole self help thing.
EDIT: I see you're from Ontario, I'd completely forgotten. We have free therapists at local health clinics that you can see (although it's by appointment only and our shitty healthcare system takes forever to get into). That's a thing you can do since you're strapped for cash though, so look into it.
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« Reply #1657 on: August 12, 2012, 05:15:30 PM » |
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@pixhead: Tell your friends and family about your problem! Tell your parents! Tell them now so that they can keep you safe!
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« Reply #1658 on: August 15, 2012, 10:14:22 AM » |
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Mom with dad are drunk, now they arguing. Arguing very loud. Thats not first time they do that ..., Mom know she woulnd't drunk, but she do that, she have some problems with alcohol (it's terrible when you are 8 year old and u see mom drinking vodka from the bottle and u don't know what to do, coz if u want to take that bottle she rage on you and hit you). Life taught me that, when its good too long, then come bad moments.
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« Reply #1659 on: August 15, 2012, 02:56:01 PM » |
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Hugs. Angry drunks are the worst drunks.
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« Reply #1660 on: August 15, 2012, 06:52:28 PM » |
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Already so much mental stress because of school. I really dislike the way things are going, was hoping my senior year would be a nice, peaceful year. My school refuses to let this happen.
I was placed in Algebra 2, which wouldn't of been a big deal, but the last time I've seen algebra was 3 years ago, thanks to that I've forgotten the fundamentals. Explaining this to my teacher, she called my counselor, attempting to get me moved into an Algebra 1 class, and then taking Algebra 2. He refused right away, saying I need this class to get into a university. While that may be true, I have no way of passing a class, when I don't even understand what to do to begin with. I've had trouble with Math ever since I was a child, so this is not good. I just want to retake a class, so I don't fail :/
Also same story applies with Spanish 2, as I had a teacher who was so terrible that she created an appointment to talk to my father, then bailed on the appointment, and blamed my father for not setting up an appointment. (It was funny though, dad resent the email she sent to us, and she was embarrassed. Hahaha.)
Anyways my head is going to explode.
Ugh. At least its the last year of dreadful Highschool.
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« Reply #1661 on: August 15, 2012, 07:03:11 PM » |
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maths is important!!
hugs though
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« Reply #1662 on: August 15, 2012, 08:37:24 PM » |
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Hugs! Try getting a volunteer tutor! Someone at your school might be willing to put in hours to help you. Talk to your teacher, and talk to your previous teachers that were nice to you - even the ones that weren't, because people help when you ask them to. Get a friend who'll actually help you do math. Those exist.
Good luck! And more hugs to you! Maths IS important, and you'll get through it!
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I'm just some bloke. Going to go to Pasadena, CA, for four years so if you're over there gimme a shout-out. Will be cool to get to know some people.
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« Reply #1663 on: August 16, 2012, 07:48:38 AM » |
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You could also use the net to brush up on your skills. There are ~200 trillion math tutorial / helper websites, not to mention the millions of youtube videos that go over specific math concepts. Or you could just order an algebra 1 book and go over it for a week or two. If you're not self-motivated enough to do any of that, then yeah, get a tutor or something.
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« Reply #1664 on: August 18, 2012, 04:53:13 AM » |
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KhanAcademy might be able to help you. They have lots of free learning videos about Maths and other sciences.
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