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[rj]

saints row 3 might be overrated. i haven't played it, so i have no idea. but the fourth one is fantastic

[surt]

saints row 3 might be overrated.

3 certainly disappointed me after 2. I could hardly play slutty-dress-up at all.

[Dreii]

here's one I think people can get on board with:

saints row the third

Yeah  my friends really got into that one and just like borderlands I had this feeling of "yeah ok cool this is a game..." I'm curious why though. These games obviously have some good qualities, my friends aren't stupid they don't get super excited about nothing. Maybe spmething about the game loop was just solved for me too early, I dunno.

[Manuel Magalhães]

Saints Row III is okay. Saints Row IV is a lot better, though. (I haven't played enough of Saints Row II to compare)

[s0]

sr4 is best

[rj]

sr4 manages to laugh at aaa games in a fun way while also being one of the best examples of why they can be fun at the same time. it's having cake and eating it too every damn moment and pulling it off with flying colors
and flying

also i don't usually feel impressed or wowed at that kind of thing but the streets of rage chapter made my jaw drop in terms of how unexpected/effective it was

[DJFloppyFish]

ok guys, i think ill give sr3 another shot lol

i just remember that intro level really rubbing me the wrong way

[jamesprimate]

Its probably just me but I feel like while the borderlands series is alright, Everyone LOVES it.

ahhh yes that was another series that was a big disappointment for me. all my friends were obsessed, but when 1 was out my PC had crap graphics hardware so it was unplayable. when i FINALLY got a new one, literally the first thing I did was play through borderlands all stoked to finally try it and... it was just a half-baked morrowind with GUNZ. enemy AI was pretty terrible, and thoroughly bland. every single fight was just "find the AI detection border and cheese". maybe thats why they call it borderlands, idk.

[Dreii]

sr4 manages to laugh at aaa games in a fun way while also being one of the best examples of why they can be fun at the same time. it's having cake and eating it too every damn moment and pulling it off with flying colors
and flying

also i don't usually feel impressed or wowed at that kind of thing but the streets of rage chapter made my jaw drop in terms of how unexpected/effective it was

You've convinced me to give it another chance. I'll be honest I diddnt let the humor get a fair shake.

[Rat Casket]

The TRON levels in SR3 are infinitely better than they were in SR4. The simulated rubberbanding is too fucking good.

[Dreii]

Its probably just me but I feel like while the borderlands series is alright, Everyone LOVES it.

ahhh yes that was another series that was a big disappointment for me. all my friends were obsessed, but when 1 was out my PC had crap graphics hardware so it was unplayable. when i FINALLY got a new one, literally the first thing I did was play through borderlands all stoked to finally try it and... it was just a half-baked morrowind with GUNZ. enemy AI was pretty terrible, and thoroughly bland. every single fight was just "find the AI detection border and cheese". maybe thats why they call it borderlands, idk.

You hit my problems with it right on the head. Its a shame too because I really dug the art style and characters had potential.

[Oroboros]

My picks in recent memory go to Naughty Dogs repertoire of titles..Uncharted and the Last of Us. I'm not sold by the idea of a cinematic experience trumping gameplay innovation, which both titles had none to offer (Last of Us promised innovation but didn't deliver). Case in point:




Regardless, showers of GOTY despite the stale run and gun gameplay exhibited by each.

[quan]

Run and gun gameplay? Did you even play The Last of Us?
I wasn't even that big a fan of TLoU but I think the majority of it's positive reception was well earned.

Naughty Dog achieved what they set out to do, write a story with interesting characters (even tho zombie stuff is pretty uninteresting these days).

[Cobralad]

Naughty Dog achieved what they set out to do, write a story with interesting characters but for some reason it was in a videogame

[Rat Casket]

TLOU is overrated as hell. I agree completely.

It is, without a doubt, one of the most overrated and over hyped games I have ever experienced. Except maybe LTTP.

[Oskuro]

saints row 3 might be overrated

To me it was a downgrade from SR2. It did have a more polished engine, and the gameplay was very fun, but it felt rushed out (spoiler: it was) and somehow smaller in scope than its predecessor, despite all the bombastic set pieces.

[gimymblert]

naughty dogs are clever, they don't innovate at all, they pick a working formula, polish it to hell because they have nothing to create, done! It's a sequel without original

Unchartred >> tomb raider with GOW (which was already resident evil 4 with machismo) cover and COD corridor
last of us >> unchartred + zombie

Of course they will make something god, they take no real risks

[quan]

Naughty Dog achieved what they set out to do, write a story with interesting characters but for some reason it was in a videogame

yeah das tru

[brwarner]

I think it can be easy to make the claim that a seemingly "dumb" or "derivative" game is overrated simply because a lot of people play it and like it (common example: CoD). Because if something seems dumb and a lot of people play it, and you don't, it makes it easy to just say they are dumb/uncritical/uneducated and walk away feeling like you are none of those things simply because you don't like a certain game. This ignores the fact, though, that people play games because they like them. If something brings you joy or happiness it doesn't make sense to label doing it as dumb, as what other option is there but to try to seek out what you like? It'd certainly be silly to only do things you hate.

Derivative things tend to be popular because they're familiar and safe, but just novel enough to have people enjoy them again. The novelty might not be enough for everyone, but it works for a lot. It's not like the people playing are ignorant of this fact. The people I know who buy the new EA Sports games every year realize the changes are minimal, but they still legitimately enjoy the experience, just like I enjoy Insurgency even though I can see the problematic trends of having all our shooters be about Americans fighting middle eastern terrorists.

Therefore I really think there's only two valid ways to define overrated

1) Reviewers are rating a game very highly because of other forces (from really explicit ones like literally being paid to rate something highly, or more subtle ones like having a relationship with the company and thus subconsciously feeling more lenient to them). Thus the game is literally overrated.

2) If people are making objectively incorrect claims about the game. These aren't claims like they like it or had fun, but things like saying something is "innovative" when it's very obviously not, or claiming a story has deep characters when they're cardboard cutouts of TV tropes pages painted in really pretty colors.

I guess in summary you can't really argue about how someone feels about a game, only the details as to why.

[Alevice]

I found titans quest overrated, it feels sooooooo dull. I couldnt find anything special on the metro 2033/lastlight games. also as a fighting game fan i find street fight 4 overrated, while capcom vs snk 2 doesnt get enouff praise.