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« Reply #210 on: January 05, 2010, 11:11:39 AM »

I know what you mean. I won't get a chance to work on IB until this weekend.

BTW, those sprites look great, as always.


By the way, I saw that Lyle can actually summon other cubes while he is carrying the giant cube. It feels a bit awkward when playing and I'd suggest that he's only able to do one thing at a time. Maybe the loss in speed could be made up by tweaking other values like his attack strength?
I think you're right about this.

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Also I'm not quite clear on the low kick. The hitbox is currently somewhere around the height of his chest, while the move list suggests it should be on the ground and 'sliding'. Did you mean something like Naija's swipe kick? Or could we just go with a regular kick, similar to the original game?
I'm considering two possibilities:
-Make it a sliding kick (like it is now; the hitbox might be a bit off)
-Have him kick a gray cube, which slides along the ground until it hits a wall or goes off an edge. I think this could be a better implementation. Someone mentioned earlier that a sliding kick isn't true to Lyle, but this would certainly be. I just need to find time to implement it.
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« Reply #211 on: January 06, 2010, 12:49:35 PM »

This is how Lyle throws up!



I likely drew too many frames, making the animation a bit slow, so feel free to take out one at the warm-up or while throwing. Also I'm not 100% sure if the cube should be incorporated in the animation, so here's the same one without it:

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« Reply #212 on: January 06, 2010, 02:27:55 PM »

You've captured Lyle's style/atmosphere/character pretty much perfectly in all these animations you've been doing.




So, how's Lyle's coding going?
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« Reply #213 on: January 06, 2010, 07:54:59 PM »

Does the cube have to spawn above his head? Couldn't it just spawn at the lowest point of where his hands go and he throws it straight up?
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« Reply #214 on: January 06, 2010, 08:37:19 PM »

So, how's Lyle's coding going?
It's more or less done. Check the latest build.
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« Reply #215 on: January 07, 2010, 12:39:23 AM »

Does the cube have to spawn above his head? Couldn't it just spawn at the lowest point of where his hands go and he throws it straight up?
That makes sense for his A attacks, which summon and throw instantly, but he also has moves that summon a cube into his hands.
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« Reply #216 on: January 07, 2010, 11:03:42 PM »

Rostiger, could you modify the sprites where Lyle holds his cube so that it stays at a constant height above his head? In the current sprites, he holds the cube a few pixels higher when he walks than when he idles, and there is no easy way to make that work.

Also, could you make another version of the throw animation for the giant cube, with Lyle standing winded briefly after throwing it?
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« Reply #217 on: January 08, 2010, 12:18:02 AM »

If you throw the giant cube straight up won't it fall at you afterwards? Also I don't think the huge cube would go very far when thrown, right? It would look weird to hit someone by throwing it upwards instead of just letting it fall and smash someone.
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« Reply #218 on: January 08, 2010, 03:05:54 AM »

Rostiger, could you modify the sprites where Lyle holds his cube so that it stays at a constant height above his head? In the current sprites, he holds the cube a few pixels higher when he walks than when he idles, and there is no easy way to make that work.

Also, could you make another version of the throw animation for the giant cube, with Lyle standing winded briefly after throwing it?

Sure, both shouldn't be a big of a deal. I'll look into it as soon as I get a chance.

If you throw the giant cube straight up won't it fall at you afterwards? Also I don't think the huge cube would go very far when thrown, right? It would look weird to hit someone by throwing it upwards instead of just letting it fall and smash someone.

The giant cube can only be thrown forward, not up- or downward, so those problems shouldn't occur.
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« Reply #219 on: January 08, 2010, 06:00:38 AM »

Alright, I updated the OP with a couple of edited animations:
When Lyle summons, throws, walks or idles with a regular cube his hands stay on the same level. Same goes for giant cubes, just that the level is a little bit lower (since the cube is heavier). I also added an idle animation when he's carrying the giant cube.

The only exception might be while jumping and falling with regular cubes - his hands might be off by a pixel or two - but I don't really think it'll be seen in-game. If it does look weird, I still can change it.

Another special case is summoning the giant cube - I just like how it falls down and he pushes the weight back up. If that turns out to be too cumbersome to implement you can always skip the last couple of frames.

So to recap Lyles sprite status, the following ones are still missing:

Throw giant cube
Giant cube particles
Punch
Kick
Summon shadow cube (can't we just use the regular summoning animation for this?)

If I missed anything, please let me know.
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« Reply #220 on: January 08, 2010, 08:44:10 AM »

When Lyle summons, throws, walks or idles with a regular cube his hands stay on the same level. Same goes for giant cubes, just that the level is a little bit lower (since the cube is heavier). I also added an idle animation when he's carrying the giant cube.
Great. That will look much better.

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The only exception might be while jumping and falling with regular cubes - his hands might be off by a pixel or two - but I don't really think it'll be seen in-game. If it does look weird, I still can change it.
Shouldn't matter at all.

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Another special case is summoning the giant cube - I just like how it falls down and he pushes the weight back up. If that turns out to be too cumbersome to implement you can always skip the last couple of frames.
Since the giant cube isn't treated as a regular item, it doesn't need to follow the same rules. I like the weight, too.

[/quote]Summon shadow cube (can't we just use the regular summoning animation for this?)
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Yeah. But something like this: would be good.

Actually, I just noticed that the shadow cube in the first post isn't the right one. I'll update it later today.
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« Reply #221 on: January 08, 2010, 11:32:34 AM »

Yeah. But something like this: would be good.
Sure, no problem. So are we going to use this one or this one ?

Also I updated the OP with some particles for the giant cube.
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« Reply #222 on: January 08, 2010, 11:36:35 AM »

Since the phantom cube is more powerful now, I thought we'd go with a flashier sprite.

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« Reply #223 on: January 08, 2010, 11:48:40 AM »

Alright, cool, I liked that one the most anyway. I'll whip up a summoning effect sometime soon then.

Also: can Lyle kick (or punch for that matter) while he is holding a regular cube? Then I need to make two animations for that, too.
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« Reply #224 on: January 08, 2010, 12:15:09 PM »

No, he can't. The only attack he can use while holding an item is his >S grab attack.
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