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[darkhog]

I'm looking for free alternative to pico-8, because I'm not going to pay $20 for a game I'll never play (Voxatron caused me seizures when I was playing at friend's house) just to get Pico-8.

I'm looking for something similar - not as hardcore as making homebrew for actual vintage computers, but still having some limitations, and most importantly it should still be fun to develop for.

[Tanner]

klik and play


also did you try e-mailing lexaloffle about your situation? he's a cool dude and might be sympathetic to your plight

[MeshGearFox]

why not just sell pico-8 by itself :S

[darkhog]

klik and play


also did you try e-mailing lexaloffle about your situation? he's a cool dude and might be sympathetic to your plight

@MeshGearFox, @Tanner: Do you think I haven't tried mailing him? I've asked if/when it'll be available separately and the answer was when it'll be finished. Yep, whenever it'll be. I'm not a beggar either and I believe he deserves money for such awesome thing, just not as much (I'd pay up to $12 for Pico-8). So no, I haven't send e-mail stating "Oh, I was just wondering if I can get Pico-8 for cheap, because uh you know I got seizures when I first played Voxatron at friend's house and don't want to pay $20 for a game I won't ever play just to get Pico-8, now gimme gimme" and I have no intention of doing so. That would be downright insulting both to lexaloffe and me and just humiliating.

As for Klik&Play... let's just say I have that phase behind and would like something that uses actual coding.

[Tanner]

jeeze okay then. idk what else to tell you. KNP has some pretty interesting limitations, enough for glorious trainwrecks to thrive around it (and other things, yes).

[pgil]

What about Megazeux?

[Landshark RAWR]

actually today they started selling pico-8 on it's own http://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php

[MeshGearFox]

Yeah just use Megazeux, Megazeux is cool.

[darkhog]

actually today they started selling pico-8 on it's own http://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php

Cool. Probably will buy it next month, I think it's worth these 15 bucks.

//edit: As for Megazeux, I've used it in the past (as I did ZZT). I've even did a tool for it called smzxdraw to help with making graphics for its advanced graphics mode. The problem with it tho is that it's very tied to one specific genre ( top-down dungeon crawler/rogue-like) and so it's hard to make something like say, platformer in it. I'm looking for something that isn't tied into specific genre.

[MeshGearFox]

You can make platformers in megazeux.

[darkhog]

You can make platformers in anything, even in Excel (using macros) or AGS, the problem is that Megazeux is set up for top-down adventure/rpg/whatever games and therefore making it do platformers is considerably harder than in tool than doesn't favor any genre (like pico-8).

[ProgramGamer]

I dare you to make a platformer in powerpoint.

[Sik]

So no, I haven't send e-mail stating "Oh, I was just wondering if I can get Pico-8 for cheap, because uh you know I got seizures when I first played Voxatron at friend's house and don't want to pay $20 for a game I won't ever play just to get Pico-8, now gimme gimme" and I have no intention of doing so. That would be downright insulting both to lexaloffe and me and just humiliating.

I think the suggestion was just regarding the seizures (to change the game so it doesn't cause them in the first place). If you get seizures then most likely a lot of other people do as well, and that's a severe problem. Reporting that would be a good idea.

[baconman]

I dare you to make a platformer in powerpoint.

You know... at one point early in my dev career, I was wondering what a PowerPoint-esque IDE could be like. It seems very straightforward in one way, it would just need some code/scripting editor added in per "slide." And a mapping system that extended beyond the visible range.

And now PICO-8 has a standalone purchase? Gonna have to do something tomorrow about that. :D

[s0]

I dare you to make a platformer in powerpoint.

You know... at one point early in my dev career, I was wondering what a PowerPoint-esque IDE could be like. It seems very straightforward in one way, it would just need some code/scripting editor added in per "slide." And a mapping system that extended beyond the visible range.

isnt that kinda how the various click programs work

[darkhog]

I dare you to make a platformer in powerpoint.

You know... at one point early in my dev career, I was wondering what a PowerPoint-esque IDE could be like. It seems very straightforward in one way, it would just need some code/scripting editor added in per "slide." And a mapping system that extended beyond the visible range.

isnt that kinda how the various click programs work

Yeah, that's how Clickteam's products works.