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[ProgramGamer]

Absolutely random and slightly off topic interjection here. I have had an idea in my head for the past few days and want the feedback of people, preferably J-Snake, since he seems to like control scheme ideas.

My thought is one about redefining the FPS control scheme. Basically, the left analog stick controls forward and backwards motion, but not strafing. instead, the x axis of that analog stick controls the rotation of the player, à la Metroid Prime. Then, the y axis of the right analog stick is used to define the vertical angle of the camera. And I mean define, not modify. think of how looking up/down works in first person Zelda, except mapped to the right analog stick. The right x axis might or might not allow you to strafe, I'm not sure if that's a good idea yet. You could lock/unlock the vertical camera rotation by pressing the right analog stick, where locked mode would simply prevent the camera from returning to its neutral position.

Thoughts?

[gimymblert]

That's how golden eye works more or less, this mode is accessible in halo too. The define vertical might have a problem of resolution (precision) but then why not try this in a prototype, it takes very little to implement in modern 3D engine. Might not work as a generic replacement for FPS game in general, but a single game around this might fly. Strafe is important for small adjustment, trust me.

Edit: this might fly on a vehicule based game (strafe removal included)

[ProgramGamer]

That's how golden eye works more or less, this mode is accessible in halo too. The define vertical might have a problem of resolution (precision) but then why not try this in a prototype, it takes very little to implement in modern 3D engine. Might not work as a generic replacement for FPS game in general, but a single game around this might fly. Strafe is important for small adjustment, trust me.

Edit: this might fly on a vehicule based game (strafe removal included)

I like the vehicle mode idea! I will take a look at my options for a quick engine prototype and see if it works well enough!

[Schoq]

mouse and keyboard you console scrubs

[J-Snake]

The only potential advantage I see is the mapping speed of the vertical aim. Like mentioned it might suffer precision problems. You have to try. Also note that many shooters benefit more from a horizontal turn than from a vertical aim. So the potential benefit also depends on how vertical your game is. But strafing is important, except you want to limit mobility on purpose. A more intuitive alternative, which is functionally almost equivalent, would be using the left thumb for regular moving and the right thumb for horizontal rotation and the vertical mapping. That ideally requires a square thumbspace for the right stick. Otherwise horizontal turns can hinder aiming vertical. Usually the vertical angle in action is small though. So it might be worth checking that out.

But what's the motivation and the goal behind the controls?. If it is to increase the overall navigation speed a significant improvement can be gained just by adding a 180-turn button. Feel free to take it into consideration.

[MeshGearFox]

[jiitype]

Interesting https://steamy.io/ "a fresh take on discovering, playing, and distributing adult games"

[oahda]

mouse and keyboard you console scrubs

lolno.

Mouse and keyboard are the primary reason I haven't played any games on my computer for like a decade or more until I got myself USB and Bluetooth controllers last year.

Mouse and keyboard makes it feel like it's not a real game to me. \0/

WOOH preferences

[Schoq]

u dont even play fps tho

[oahda]

lol r u 14 y o

[Schoq]

I would be if I thought an xbox controller could possibly do the genre justice!

[Torchkas]

Doom didn't have mouse controls. Quake does. Would you say Quake is better than Doom?

[Schoq]

eh yeah definitely
and especially in how it controls which is the only relevant part here

[oahda]

lol i mean palying da genre at all

[gimymblert]

Nunchuck + mice is teh way to go pals

[s0]

Doom didn't have mouse controls. Quake does. Would you say Quake is better than Doom?

doom was a 2d game tho

anyway the best controller would be a snes wiimote gamecube virtual boy with a built in fart sensor

[gimymblert]

Doom didn't have mouse controls. Quake does. Would you say Quake is better than Doom?

doom was a 2d game tho

anyway the best controller would be a snes wiimote gamecube virtual boy with a built in fart sensor

Huh that's sony's morpheus + move

[s0]

oh btw doom actually DID have mouse support. i prefer the level design in doom over quake tho.

[J-Snake]

Nothing beats mouse for mapping angular movement so far, that means aiming for your fps. But it also requires more movement. It's more comfortable to sit just with a controller in the hand.

[Torchkas]

I actually like Doom better than Quake too, but I guess the comparison shouldn't be made within the argument of first person shooters. Doom doesn't have the same control scheme modern console FPS have.
Quake is a closer competitor to the modern FPS mouselook, but Quake didn't have iron sights. Quake also was still very much a game about projectile evasion unlike modern FPS. At this point, FPS are all about point-and-click and timing your cover. The older ones had much more actual action in the dynamics.


Also fuck April fool's.