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« Reply #13700 on: December 18, 2012, 03:49:37 PM »

thought this was a good read it's on breaking habits and forming better ones
http://blogs.plos.org/neurotribes/2012/03/20/breaking-the-habits-that-enslave-us-qa-with-charles-duhigg/

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I think when most people think about changing their habits, they focus on the problematic behavior, on changing the habit itself. But thereís only so much willpower we can expend in a day. When someone says to themselves, ďOK, Iíve got to get in shape,Ē thatís an almost insurmountable mountain. But if you focus on the cues and rewards, making a change is more manageable. We know from studies that almost all cues ó the stimuli that elicit the habitual behavior ó fall into one of five categories. Itís time of day, or a certain place, or a certain emotion, or the presence of certain people, or a preceding action thatís become habitual or ritualized. This gives us a way to create an exercise habit that doesnít require saying ďIíve got to change my whole lifeĒ and beating up on yourself. Instead, what if you just say, ďEvery morning, or when I come home from work, Iím going to put on my running shoes.  Iím not even necessarily going for a run. Iím just putting on my running shoes. Thatís going to be my new habit.Ē If you do that a couple of days a week, eventually youíre going to go running.

Itís little shifts. Once you start running, youíre going to get into a running habit, right? But it starts with this small win. If as soon as you get home from work, you put on your running shoes ó even if you feel stupid about it! ó youíre creating a cue. The benefits of that small win will start cascading through your life.

Then you focus on the rewards. The first couple of times you go running, youíre not going to enjoy it. No one enjoys it the first time they run. So you have to give yourself a piece of chocolate when you get back from the run. You have to have some immediate reward.  And we know from studies that within two weeks, the intrinsic reward of running ó the endocannabinoids unleashed by exercising ó are going to become enough of a reward to create that habit. But you have to trick your brain into it by giving yourself a piece of chocolate the first couple times. And it has to be a reward you really enjoy. You canít say, ďIím going to start running, and my reward is going to be a salad and kale chips.Ē No one really enjoys that.
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« Reply #13701 on: December 18, 2012, 04:00:55 PM »

The sentiment is right because you don't tackle a huge problem all at once, but it sounds like conditioning and gamification.

In my experience, the best way to change deep habits is to actually remove rewards and cues. Acknowledge the problem is hard, be honest with your flaws and limitations, and start from the bottom. Motivation should be desire for personal benefit such as caring about yourself and wanting to do more things with your life, rather than cookies. You give yourself a cookie after a run, then you don't have time to run but you wanted to so, half a cookie. The next days you realize you have a box of cookies that requires no running. But the satisfaction of doing good in the world is hard won and hopefully worth fighting for.
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« Reply #13702 on: December 18, 2012, 04:36:07 PM »

I don't know if you can remove cues & rewards, they are what happen and rewards always occur whether good or bad, it's what you get from them or seek to get from them.  I think it's remarking on the reaction of noticing bad habits, and saying well I just have to stop it.  it's not really so simple as that, there are processes that trigger them, and in experience just being mindful of how the urge to do something I know I shouldn't be doing is triggered - the habit eventually wanes.  It might be because habits are an automatic reaction, and by turning the cues or triggers, into triggers of awareness of that habit, the urge to do it is gone.  I don't think it talks about using necessarily a carrot and stick method to overcoming bad habits, but the need for personal development whatever that means to you is the motivation.
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« Reply #13703 on: December 18, 2012, 05:16:08 PM »

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In my experience, the best way to change deep habits is to actually remove rewards and cues. Acknowledge the problem is hard, be honest with your flaws and limitations, and start from the bottom.
actually acknowledging the problem* is already half the work and can even be the hardest part depending on what the problem is. by the time youve stopped lying to yourself about your bad habit, doing something about it comes naturally.

*acknowledgement goes deeper than just SAYING you have a bad habit. you actually have to FEEL it too
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« Reply #13704 on: December 18, 2012, 11:48:01 PM »

I was on a panel.

http://news.wolfgame.com/post/38292034631/hey-guys-this-is-wolfgang-i-was-on-a-panel
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« Reply #13705 on: December 19, 2012, 12:50:25 AM »

I just realized I need to stop playing league of legends that much...

league of legends is a game for self hating nerds who wish to inflict pain and suffering upon themselves and others

(ie me)

be a man and uninstall

(at least until they buff akali again)
wel not really. I mean, akali is still good, she just kicked ass today. I mostly play Twitch and I still didnt leave when they nerfed him. Personally, I think that yes, the community may suck at times, but then again EVERY community has idiots in it. It's the nature of the internet - Being anonymous means that "nobody" will EVER know it was you who just did something utterly stupid, so why care? I've met some really good people there... could it be that EUNE is a good server(Cheesy)
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« Reply #13706 on: December 19, 2012, 01:00:04 AM »

no no no you don't understand

i don't want her to be just good

i want her to be akali good


i want to make nerds cry
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« Reply #13707 on: December 19, 2012, 11:52:32 AM »

no no no you don't understand

i don't want her to be just good

i want her to be akali good


i want to make nerds cry
That would ruin the game. Then just play a charracter with a Karthus ult for his q on a 4 second cooldown, a Diana dash for his W, A Darius uti for his E that has the 0 sec cooldown even if it doesnt kill anything and a kayle ulti that lasts for the entire game and is basically a passive for an ulti... The whole idea of the game is that the chances of winning are ALMOST 50/50, thus the better team wins(Yeah sure, argue with me about afkers and OP champs) People who think they should just pubstomp everyone just because they took a good champ are what makes most of the lol community bad. Thank you for not playing, John, and removing yourself from the LOL community, thus making it better. Now less nerds like me will cry.

 

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« Reply #13708 on: December 19, 2012, 02:48:43 PM »

no no no you don't understand

i don't want her to be just good

i want her to be akali good


i want to make nerds cry
That would ruin the game. Then just play a charracter with a Karthus ult for his q on a 4 second cooldown, a Diana dash for his W, A Darius uti for his E that has the 0 sec cooldown even if it doesnt kill anything and a kayle ulti that lasts for the entire game and is basically a passive for an ulti... The whole idea of the game is that the chances of winning are ALMOST 50/50, thus the better team wins(Yeah sure, argue with me about afkers and OP champs) People who think they should just pubstomp everyone just because they took a good champ are what makes most of the lol community bad. Thank you for not playing, John, and removing yourself from the LOL community, thus making it better. Now less nerds like me will cry.

 



If you think some heroes aren't inherently better or more powerful than others you're the problem with the community. Literally everyone who knows anything about the game knows that there are very obvious tiers of characters and that some of them are basically useless. Learn a little next time
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« Reply #13709 on: December 19, 2012, 03:17:42 PM »

Hellow everybody, i'm new here  Gentleman
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« Reply #13710 on: December 19, 2012, 03:33:24 PM »

sarcasm does not exist
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« Reply #13711 on: December 19, 2012, 03:50:46 PM »

sarcasm does not exist

Yeah, right.
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« Reply #13712 on: December 19, 2012, 04:43:21 PM »

Cold bloody murrderr

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« Reply #13713 on: December 19, 2012, 06:17:02 PM »

http://www.edge-online.com/features/works-in-progress-hands-on-with-double-fines-amnesia-fortnight-prototypes/
I hope some get turn into a game
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« Reply #13714 on: December 19, 2012, 09:50:31 PM »

http://beta.theshowdowneffect.com/?ref=d8e1884f374

this gam looks interesting

you have to get 3 beta signup referral things to get into the beta, though, which is dum.

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« Reply #13715 on: December 19, 2012, 10:27:34 PM »

http://beta.theshowdowneffect.com/?ref=d8e1884f374

this gam looks interesting

you have to get 3 beta signup referral things to get into the beta, though, which is dum.

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I just typed the address without the ref code in my browser
Because I'm the worst B)
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« Reply #13716 on: December 20, 2012, 02:45:20 AM »

no no no you don't understand

i don't want her to be just good

i want her to be akali good


i want to make nerds cry
That would ruin the game. Then just play a charracter with a Karthus ult for his q on a 4 second cooldown, a Diana dash for his W, A Darius uti for his E that has the 0 sec cooldown even if it doesnt kill anything and a kayle ulti that lasts for the entire game and is basically a passive for an ulti... The whole idea of the game is that the chances of winning are ALMOST 50/50, thus the better team wins(Yeah sure, argue with me about afkers and OP champs) People who think they should just pubstomp everyone just because they took a good champ are what makes most of the lol community bad. Thank you for not playing, John, and removing yourself from the LOL community, thus making it better. Now less nerds like me will cry.

 



If you think some heroes aren't inherently better or more powerful than others you're the problem with the community. Literally everyone who knows anything about the game knows that there are very obvious tiers of characters and that some of them are basically useless. Learn a little next time
Well I never, how arrogantly rude.

Obviously some champions are better then a few others in certain areas. A karma cannot beat a darius even with a full build. An ashe cant beat a smart twitch if hea stealths up to her. However, I believe that that's why there are constantly patches. Besides, I dont think that everyone has to have their own way of "killing people." It is a rts/towerdefense remix after all, so the goal is to kill the nexus, not the players. If you could push towers like mad, but not kill champions, you might still win as long as you never get caught. Besides, it's just a game. I'm used to playing hard games and I like a challenge. A bit of inbalance is nice. And it's always nice to see the so called "top tier" champions get anihilated by forgotten low tier champions. As a side joke, the balance of the game is that although some champions are op, their opness cuases the players to act like they think they're unkillable. Ever seen a Darius rage? I have.

But srsly, what's with the hate towards LOL? I just like the game.
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« Reply #13717 on: December 20, 2012, 02:51:37 AM »

to reiterate i was being vaguely facetious when i said i wanted to make nerds cry

but anyway the issue is not that karma can't 1v1 a darius. we're not idiots. the issue is that karma is utterly worthless in comparison to other supports (a problem which riot has acknowledged for the past year and has yet to do anything about)

don't mistake hate for legitimate criticism. some of us have played over 4000 games and have rather good w/l ratios to boot. play a game that much and you'll come to realize all the flaws it has.

ps: arrogantly is spelled with an a
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« Reply #13718 on: December 20, 2012, 03:13:06 AM »

to reiterate i was being vaguely facetious when i said i wanted to make nerds cry

but anyway the issue is not that karma can't 1v1 a darius. we're not idiots. the issue is that karma is utterly worthless in comparison to other supports (a problem which riot has acknowledged for the past year and has yet to do anything about)

don't mistake hate for legitimate criticism. some of us have played over 4000 games and have rather good w/l ratios to boot. play a game that much and you'll come to realize all the flaws it has.

true, true. I did once totally own a few games with karma cause nobody knew what she does, but thats not a good advantage. I know there are akways a few flaws, thus the patches are comming in all the time. Also, riot has lately stepped it up a bit when it comes to community feedback. Also, there is going to be a Karma and Heimerdinger rework at somepoint.
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« Reply #13719 on: December 20, 2012, 03:26:26 AM »

some of us have played over 4000 games and have rather good w/l ratios to boot.

then there are others, like john sandonoval, who've played over 4000 games and are still nooblords
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