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« on: May 04, 2009, 09:15:03 PM »

!UPDATE!May 11th 2009-Download
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Aces Wild!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjjgGoguJCA

Check out the youtube (Kicks42) page for more vids.
It's Manic Beat 'Em Up action!
Created using the wonderful XNA framework, Aces Wild is a 2d action game where you take control of Ace and his wide variety of martial arts skills and wile to defeat hordes of ninjas!

I'm looking for any and all feedback!
Let me know what's fun! Do you like the animations? The move set? The mechanics? Are these things dumb? There are lots of bugs at the moment and the systems are far from complete. Many infinites exist and that is a shame, but much fun is still to be had, so play and let me know what you love and hate! And what you like to see from your action games!

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 12:38:00 PM »

Wow that looks really impressive, I'm surprised there hasn't been any other replies yet!
This definitely looks like it has lots of potential, I haven't played the demo yet, but I'll be back with more feedback later.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 09:22:15 PM »

Excellent job!  The fighting feels really crisp and fluid.  The screen shaking and particle effects are great.  I think I would prefer the dash move as a double tap command, though.  I hope in the final game there are some cool obstacles like maybe swinging off flagpoles or doing some wall kicks.  I think a combo of this with Mirror's Edge 2D would be a mind blowing.  Even without those kinds of extras you still could have something really awesome.  Maybe a Guardian Heroes meets God Hand kind of thing.  I can't wait to see a more finalized version.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 09:47:06 PM »

I think it looks really cool though it's kinda hard to follow what's going on in the video, but I'm pretty sure that that's what happen when you're just watching and not playing Cheesy

I really love the animation, especially all those particle effects. Really make the fight looks tense and powerful. May I ask what program you use to create those animations? Like the flash when enemies are hit.

One reason I think why it's hard to follow is the player's color scheme and the enemies are too similar. That make it kinda hard to tell where your character is.

This is from what I've seen and not from what I've played. Will download it and give you more feedback soon once I've played the game Smiley

EDIT: OMG I didn't realize who post this. It's Kicks! Long time no see! SO this is what you've been working on instead of Beyond The Veil Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 05:21:39 PM »

Ha! Hima!
I just saw you in the introductions thread before this! Good to see you're still making games too.
Yeah, I had to quit Beyond the Veil. I bit off more than I could chew with that one. I'll likely return to that game with better planning and a more realistic goal.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm eager to see what you've got cookin' too.

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Sorry! I forgot to answer the questions!
@Topher
In regards to Mirror's Edge... Yes. More acrobatics... wall hangs/kicks and such are indeed going to be implemented.

@hima
I just use photoshop for everything. I just draw it out and then the engine i programmed handles the particles... like fading in and out and flashing and such... I think the best way to learn is to just find an effect you like or want to make and then figure out how to make it happen with simple effects like scale, rotation, and opacity. At first I was animating many frames for the effects, much like the rest of the animations, but I realized that single frames/sprites just scaled and faded worked just as well and saved me TONS of time.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2009, 06:59:52 AM »

Pretty awesome. There's a definite Smash Bros. feel. Nice graphics. The main character's head looks like Astro Boy.

I always juggle enemies by standing inside him, then repeatedly pressing X while holding UP. Using that method I can usually kill an enemy without letting him out of the juggle, and get up to the maximum height in the level.

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2009, 09:06:44 PM »

I liked the demo quite a bit.  The action felt smooth and the visual style was excellent.  That being said, I did have a few issues.

-The controls were a bit awkward, particularly jumping.  I would set jumping to either the C button rather than the space bar.

-The characters could use some sort of idle animation.  Currently, the action of the game is quite involving, but during the times when the enemies aren't attacking, the fact that they aren't moving at all sort of takes me out of the illusion.  It's a rather small point now, probably just something to remember down the road.

-I also found the same thing as jkd that you can juggle easily by holding up and kicking.

This looks really promising, and I look forward to future versions of the game.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2009, 09:18:49 AM »

Wohoo that is so cool! Hey, you're a master of graphical arts. All the stuff looks perfect through my eyes. The idea of having enemies that take hits like explosives is a nice bonus, too.

I just defeated a mechanical insect of some sort, are there more levels? I'll play this one a bit longer anyway 'cause it's fun! Hopefully I'll get back with some more feedback.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2009, 10:44:38 AM »

promising game!
do you also plan to implement some sort of single player platform stages?
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2009, 01:54:56 PM »

With multiple characters this would be amazing. My only crit as of now is that his down x attack is nearly useless.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2009, 11:13:10 AM »

Okay, I think I reached the end! The pit with high rocks around. This demo is amazing.

I like the fighting much better than the fighting in Odin Sphere, and your graphics are aesthetically pleasing in a way quite similar to it.

The jump kick, forward + X, has a strange collision detection because sometimes it just flies through the enemies. It is possible to learn that timing though.

I love up + X, + X, + X! I managed to stay in air for several ten seconds like that, haha! I really think you should keep stuff like that (I guess it's what's referred to as "juggling"?). From my perspective it's what makes the game extra fun to play, you can do those crazy things that you can't in more realistic fighting games (I'm less fond of realistic fighting games).
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2009, 05:56:00 PM »

Thanks for they feedback, guys!
New demo up in the first post. Not much is new, mostly balance stuff.
Fixed the jumps for keyboard, they weren't getting the full benefit of holding the button for longer jumps.
Removed a few infinites though some still exist. Added most of the voice for Ace. Toned down the jumping and dashing... though probably too much. Redid the keyboard controls after numerous complaints(sorry!). Read the readme for more details.
Also added 'Wild Reversals!' (no good name yet). Do any Xbutton move(C on the keyboard) or Neutral Y (Xkeyboard) RIGHT as the enemy hits and Ace will get pumped and become invincible for the rest of the move.
Though I might add that many people seem to miss the diagonals... like the dive punch and bicycle kick.

@Tuna Unleashed...
The goal, at least, is to be able to play as any of the characters characters you fight. Just 'rebalanced' versions for player use. I currently have a few others, but they have lots of incomplete animations. You don't like down+X? Do you mean the twist kick or the punch? Either way they're both crazy good. If you're referring to the kick, do it in the air and you'll see what I mean. Same with the down punch. Get into the air with the flip kick, then bounce ninjas like a basketball!

@DimJimma...
Oh no! You're only in that pit? Try jumping then dashing to get out. Sorry I forgot the keyboard controls had a lousy jump, so you have to dash out. The last part is on a bridge. You'll fight a bunch, then fight 3 random ninja types. That part just loops infinitely.

Thanks again for the feedback! Keep it coming! Tell your friends! I'm super sorry it's made using XNA. It's really nice, but not good for distribution. I just pulled a big crunch to get this done for some competitions, so I'm a bit burnt out and my mom says I need to take a break, so the next update should be in a week or so.
The original goal of this game was to make a game like dynasty warriors... in that you're up against an insane amount of enemies (why it's called Aces Wild, because an Ace is a 'single' that beats everything). Only I wanted you to think and not mash like dynasty warriors. All games are organic during production, but that goal is still in my heart and on the drawing board. I can see it in the distance, and it's beautiful!
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2009, 09:27:33 AM »

Wow, that was really entertaining. Reminded me strongly of Smashbro's Melee, with all con's and pro's.  I liked the aerial fighting, I enjoyed how you can "charge" your strong hits.  With a bunch of different characters with different moves, strengths, weaknesses, this could be really awesome.  As it is, the most fun I had was fighting enemies one at a time, let me build up combo's and whatnot.  Reminds me of the way Fox/Falco play in high end Melee play, which is a very good thing!  I didn't much enjoy when there was waves of 'em hitting from every side.  That's the biggest complaint, really. Other than that, very good!
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2009, 05:16:08 PM »

Awesome game.

One quick note: I think the voice was a bit too loud compared to the other sounds.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2009, 07:06:29 PM »

YAY! Front page! This site knows how to treat it's users! Thanks out to tigsource and everyone else here!

I'm actually pretty surprised how much people didn't like the voices. A different aesthetic perhaps... I have a friend that questions me on whether or not I understand subtlety. Though he liked the voices so... Anyways!
Thanks for the support. I have a part time job to help me support making games, but my employers lost a client and gained a new one, so I have a month of training. Basically it means I can't get any good work during the weekdays, so until June, most stuff will get done on the weekends. Though... that's usually when stuff gets done anyway, just less during the week until June.
Thanks again for all your support, guys! Keep the feedback coming and don't hold back on what you love and hate, though a bit more specific would be nice.
Some people give specific instances from the game others give more abstract game mechanical notions... I would love it if I could get both, as best as you can at least, from each instance of a like or dislike.
Thanks again!
Aces Wild, baby!
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