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[Guillaume]

Yeah, honestly I don't blame Notch. People are jackasses, and it would be easy to try to screw him over if they offered a paid sequel or expansion with that text still in place. I think they want to spend time making games, not in courts.

Plus, I already got my value's worth of the alpha. 15$ is riculously cheap- that's almost the price of a movie ticket! If Notch asked the alpha buyers to pay again for the final release, I would gladly do so.

[Ben_Hurr]

Yeah, honestly I don't blame Notch. People are jackasses, and it would be easy to try to screw him over if they offered a paid sequel or expansion with that text still in place. I think they want to spend time making games, not in courts.

Plus, I already got my value's worth of the alpha. 15$ is riculously cheap- that's almost the price of a movie ticket! If Notch asked the alpha buyers to pay again for the final release, I would gladly do so.

Why would people be jackasses for calling him on a legal agreement? :V

But of course he took it down, its wording as is would entitle people to free sequels and expansion packs!  Of course the worry is that he'll start charging for regular updates.

[Nix]

Yeah, honestly I don't blame Notch. People are jackasses, and it would be easy to try to screw him over if they offered a paid sequel or expansion with that text still in place. I think they want to spend time making games, not in courts.

Plus, I already got my value's worth of the alpha. 15$ is riculously cheap- that's almost the price of a movie ticket! If Notch asked the alpha buyers to pay again for the final release, I would gladly do so.

Why would people be jackasses for calling him on a legal agreement? :V

But of course he took it down, its wording as is would entitle people to free sequels and expansion packs!  Of course the worry is that he'll start charging for regular updates.

Because he wouldn't have meant to make the agreement in the first place. People who did this would be taking advantage of the fact that he didn't go to law school. Trying to strong-arm someone into giving you more than they initially meant to (when the initial offer was extremely generous in the first place) would be a pretty nasty thing to do.

[Conker]

I think minecraft should be made onto xbox and ps3. That would be great.

[Oddball]

Do I spy a subscription based payment model on the horizon? That would be the best way to get the maximum dollar out of the paying public. I can see the advertising blurb now "Pay for ever update or subscribe for only $12 a quarter.". Oh Notch how quickly you 'sold out'.

On a more serious note, how would the multiplayer work with players who have paid for different amounts of content, or would you only be able to play with those that have paid for the same amounts of content?

[_Madk]

I don't see why Notch would employ a subscription fee, seeing how the game maintains no significant perpetual cost to him. I don't think this means the payments are going to start sucking, just that the gamemode additions and stuff will cost money. The odd part is how he plans to do this with a modding API also freely available.

[Guillaume]

Oh Notch how quickly you 'sold out'.

The guy only took out a line from his website at the advice of his lawyer, because legally, saying "all updates in the future will be free" is a VERY slippery slope. Any developer in their right mind would have done the same.

The odd part is how he plans to do this with a modding API also freely available.

I don't think that's odd- expansions could include brand new things (blimps! dragons! etc.) , whereas modding only allows you to tweak what's already there.

[Bood_War]

I would like to point out that Cortex Command has done the 'free updates forever' thing for 7 years now, and TF2 for about as along. (Though comparing TF2 and Minecraft is a bit unfair I do realize.)

[Conker]

Anyone who doesn't agree with this is selfish.

People would abuse the legal system. Because people suck.

[Hangedman]

No need to assume the worst.

[Ben_Hurr]

Oh Notch how quickly you 'sold out'.

The guy only took out a line from his website at the advice of his lawyer, because legally, saying "all updates in the future will be free" is a VERY slippery slope. Any developer in their right mind would have done the same.

The odd part is how he plans to do this with a modding API also freely available.

I don't think that's odd- expansions could include brand new things (blimps! dragons! etc.) , whereas modding only allows you to tweak what's already there.

Modding support already allows you to do all those things.  And if Notch took that ability away he'd be a dick.

If he charged for things like Blimps and Dragons, he would be a royal dick.  That's what people are worried about with these changes.

I think its a little quick to accuse him of 'selling out' though, since all he did was take out some really vague conditions from the minecraft liscense.  Let's reserve that judgement until he does something stupid like charge per month for multiplayer or hold gameplay features hostage for $10 a pop. 

[Valyou]

Even though I got the game at the Alpha stage, I think that this new crap about "lawl u gotta gimme munny evry updat" is so unfair. Plus, MP might get so f***'d up with people who paid as soon as Beta came and those who paid in the middle of beta.
I'd rather be tempted with microtransactions than to keep tossing out money towards Notch, to be honest.
And the whole "money keeps dinner on the table" is total bull. Devs can get enough money to buy food with at least one to four buyers a day, let alone the 100+ buyers MC fares.

[jotapeh]

Even though I got the game at the Alpha stage, I think that this new crap about "lawl u gotta gimme munny evry updat" is so unfair. Plus, MP might get so f***'d up with people who paid as soon as Beta came and those who paid in the middle of beta.
I'd rather be tempted with microtransactions than to keep tossing out money towards Notch, to be honest.
And the whole "money keeps dinner on the table" is total bull. Devs can get enough money to buy food with at least one to four buyers a day, let alone the 100+ buyers MC fares.

The assumptions in these statements are all at once broad, overreaching and erroneous – please do a little fact-checking.

[John Sandoval]

Even though I got the game at the Alpha stage, I think that this new crap about "lawl u gotta gimme munny evry updat" is so unfair. Plus, MP might get so f***'d up with people who paid as soon as Beta came and those who paid in the middle of beta.
I'd rather be tempted with microtransactions than to keep tossing out money towards Notch, to be honest.
And the whole "money keeps dinner on the table" is total bull. Devs can get enough money to buy food with at least one to four buyers a day, let alone the 100+ buyers MC fares.

The assumptions in these statements are all at once broad, overreaching and erroneous – please do a little fact-checking.

 

[Guillaume]

No need to assume the worst.

Hmm yes- when it comes to making legal statements that could put your company at stake, you NEED to assume the worst.

People bitching about that decision are self entitled whiners who expect to have everything for free ("like omg, if notch makes us pay i'll just pirate it lol!") and have no idea how the business side of game development work.

Please, let's keep some classiness on TIGSource, and respect our fellow indie dev decisions when they are smart and justified.