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« Reply #165 on: May 31, 2009, 05:26:51 PM »



The EDGE: The Game 5
Coming soon....

I think this is the perfect time to announce the fifth installment in my highly rated and well established game series The EDGE. The first The EDGE game debuted in 1983 and was well established as a quality IP before 1984.

Expect a full and detailed Wiki page about it's long and well known history to appear on Wikipedia soon. I just need to get my wife to make it up first.
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« Reply #166 on: May 31, 2009, 05:34:49 PM »

Sadly yes, the alliteration is a nice touch though, as apposed to just saying:
"Patent troll".

patents and trademarks are different things
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« Reply #167 on: May 31, 2009, 05:38:20 PM »

@Chris: Are you hosting that game's page yourself? Otherwise I'm betting it will disappear suddenly in a few days.  Sad

@Edgetheedge: I... really don't know what to say, I think you've put it quite well. I actually sorta want to see them sued, only cause I think the outcome could be interesting, and possibly quite therapeutic.

Eh, if I lose my domain to this guy then it just proves how unscrupulous he is in defending his IP.

After reading Tom B's post I debated taking it down - it's true that we don't have all the information, and it's entirely possible that maybe Langdell has some information we don't.

But honestly, in a world where Q Entertainment and Q Games can coexist in the same industry (tell me that doesn't lend itself to brand name confusion) and where Apple.com's trailer page currently has two (count'em, two!) movies entitled "Nine" listed, I don't see why Edge Games feels the need to assume ownership of the word for the entire industry.  And again, even that wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't an IGDA chair and in a position whose responsibilities include protecting the interests of the people he's suing.  So the game will, for the time being, remain up until information comes to light that shows clear and infringement on the part of Mobigame.

Besides, I honestly don't think I've done anything wrong.  I've done nothing but take the same general content from this entire thread and throw a Pong game up on top of it with the word "edge" in the title.  I think you'd be hard pressed to make a court case out of that, especially since I'm getting absolutely zero cash out of this (unlike Edge, which was released commercially).  I explicitly mention having nothing to do with Langdell or any of his companies, and while baiting him to hand me court papers is probably not the smartest thing to do when dealing with a clearly overly litigious guy I honestly don't see what he can do.  He doesn't own the word outside of the narrow context of a game publishing company, which is the entire reason I'm posting this thing.
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« Reply #168 on: May 31, 2009, 05:51:52 PM »

Well, cheers to you, Chris. Coffee Hopefully things don't take a sour turn.

And Oddball, that is the most awesome thing I have seen all day. Hand Thumbs Up Left:D Cheers to you too.
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« Reply #169 on: May 31, 2009, 06:09:50 PM »

Chris: I would'nt worry too much about it, since your game falls under 'parody', at the least. And Mr.Langdell does'nt seem to be going after ventures where he can't make a quick buck off other people's labor. The licensing rights he sold to Future Publishing and Fox shows he's a cunning chap, who understood the importance of squating a word by releasing a slew of bin games and then sueing away the past 20 years. Once in a while, you have a court case that illustrate a need for change in antiquated laws. I think it's time to reconsider the trademark laws, especially when it comes to a game/movie/comic title vs a company logo. For example, what if I made a game named 'the Apple', a cute sim with a worm burrowing his way through a fantastic universe, all inside an apple. Would I get sued, even though the game would have nothing to do with the Apple trademark? Is a word an IP, or do you need a bit more work behind it to make it so?
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« Reply #170 on: May 31, 2009, 06:14:56 PM »

I looked up tim langdell on facebook to see if I could assert my dislike of this ordeal in the most powerful/mature way: by joing a group called "Tim Langdell Sucks", "1 Million Against Tim Langdell" or by "You are now a fan of "TIM LANGDELL SUCKS"

Instead, I just found his personal profile, and noticed that we had 2 mutual friends. That means we're practically related, and I feel ashamed.
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« Reply #171 on: May 31, 2009, 07:31:26 PM »

I think that means you have to throw a sheep at him, or turn him into a vampire, or challenge him to a game of Pixel Ranger.
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« Reply #172 on: May 31, 2009, 08:10:42 PM »

I think that means you have to throw a sheep at him, or turn him into a vampire, or challenge him to a game of Pixel Ranger.

Yep. That would be the standard response.
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« Reply #173 on: May 31, 2009, 08:49:34 PM »

Can someone who is familiar with the IGDA's history (preferably a member or former member) highlight the positive things that the IGDA has done for game developers since it was created?  I mean concrete things, e.g. protecting a developer from legal abuse, raising the quality of life for developers at a particular big company, etc.

I'm not asking rhetorically, I want to know.  It's not obvious from their website or the Wikipedia entry what they have done or what tangible benefits they provide to their members.
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« Reply #174 on: May 31, 2009, 09:20:45 PM »

EDGE Gay website is actually stepping right on the toes of EDGE troll by selling clothes branded with the word...

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Tim

While looking up Tim's Edge clothing link, I searched for "The Edge" in Google... got to page 4 and still hadn't found him (Even after finding numerous Edge named sites and even two other magazines called The Edge!)

Seems there are plenty of cheeky bastards who defy all reason and continue to use the E word to run businesses, websites - and even magazines and films (Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason). The dictionary should have a subtext "EDGE - Removed from the English language in 1979 for fear of Tim".
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« Reply #175 on: May 31, 2009, 09:26:07 PM »

Can someone who is familiar with the IGDA's history (preferably a member or former member) highlight the positive things that the IGDA has done for game developers since it was created?  I mean concrete things, e.g. protecting a developer from legal abuse, raising the quality of life for developers at a particular big company, etc.

I'm not asking rhetorically, I want to know.  It's not obvious from their website or the Wikipedia entry what they have done or what tangible benefits they provide to their members.
I'm not a member but I've heard that they have NOT broken some devellopers legs in exchange for their monthly payment Noir
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« Reply #176 on: May 31, 2009, 10:22:47 PM »

Can someone who is familiar with the IGDA's history (preferably a member or former member) highlight the positive things that the IGDA has done for game developers since it was created?  I mean concrete things, e.g. protecting a developer from legal abuse, raising the quality of life for developers at a particular big company, etc.

I'm not asking rhetorically, I want to know.  It's not obvious from their website or the Wikipedia entry what they have done or what tangible benefits they provide to their members.

not a member, but from what i gather they do publish stuff occasionally, and conduct surveys and such. they also have special interest groups which operate somewhat independently, doing their own things. they also lobby government to censor games less, but haven't done anything there since 2005.

but they have 14455 members, and membership is 50$ each, so that's a substantial amount of money (three quarters of a million dollars a year) and they don't really tell us where it all goes as far as i know, which is why i was suspicious in a previous post. from the surface it seems to work like many unions do: collect member fees, do something to show that they aren't doing nothing, and maybe pocket the rest? (i know, i shouldn't be throwing out random accusations like that, but unions / trade groups like this in general tend to be corrupt all over -- the days of honest marxist-style unions are past).
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« Reply #177 on: May 31, 2009, 10:50:00 PM »

Everyone on the industry board I visit is also saying the IGDA is worthless and they won't be renewing their memberships etc.
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« Reply #178 on: May 31, 2009, 10:54:06 PM »

If it weren't for the IGDA, I would never have heard of Fantasci. But I've never been a member.

Other than that, I don't understand why it exists.
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« Reply #179 on: May 31, 2009, 11:40:46 PM »

EDGE Gay website is actually stepping right on the toes of EDGE troll by selling clothes branded with the word...

Gay
Tim
Jesus, the Tim one has "I made this in Paint" written all over it. I'm going for the gay one.

I'd like to say I've only pirated Tim's games, but I've never heard of a single one.
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