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[raiten]

I think we all need to start sending out e-mails to the board members, directing their attention to this!

Would it be worth it?
would it make the IGDA better? I personally don't care about this association , and maybe it's better if they have Langdell at the helm, since it seems to be full of people of the same genre anyway.

I'm not in this to save the IGDA, it's mostly about making Langdell's life miserable.

[John Nesky]

I'm not in this to save the IGDA, it's mostly about making Langdell's life miserable.

Because two wrongs make a right. 

[raiten]

Because two wrongs make a right. 

Maybe I'm morally handicapped but I can't see how making his life's miserable would fall under "wrong".

[raiten]

Seriously though, in the end it's about making him realize he should just give Mobigames the right to use the name Edge. I think making him miserable might be a step on the way.

[John Nesky]

Hate is a positive feedback mechanism, in the mathematical sense of the word. It makes a bad situation worse.

If everything we've found out about Tim Langdell is true, then he absolutely should be stripped of his authority, and perhaps publicly humiliated to discourage people from acting the way he did. But there's a big difference between that, and making his life miserable just because you can. We need to demonstrate that we have more maturity than Tim Langdell.

[JoeHonkie]

No reason to run the guy into the ground.  If there's a way to stop him from doing these things, it's probably not getting up in his grill.  And if you do get him to stop, no reason to be in his grill anymore.

I meet shitty people all the time, if I got into it with every one of them I wouldn't have any time for myself.

[Corpus]

Seriously though, in the end it's about making him realize he should just give Mobigames the right to use the name Edge. I think making him miserable might be a step on the way.

No it wouldn't. Is it a sunny day where you are? Go outside. Walk to the park. Hug somebody.

[raiten]

I'm not actually a sadist! Throughout all this crazy obsessive internet sleuthing my goal has always been clear, to get Edge back on the Apple store.

Also, I took your advice Corpus, and now I'm being charged with sexual assault.

[moi]

Seriously though, in the end it's about making him realize he should just give Mobigames the right to use the name Edge. I think making him miserable might be a step on the way.

That won't happen.

[Paul Eres]

as david said, they removed edge voluntarily, tim didn't force them into it. they just removed it till the tm issue got cleared up, and can put it back at any time afaik

[raiten]

as david said, they removed edge voluntarily, tim didn't force them into it. they just removed it till the tm issue got cleared up, and can put it back at any time afaik

"voluntarily" as in voluntarily with a gun to their head!

(the gun being threats of multi-million dollar lawsuit)

OK, maybe a water gun but it can be hard to tell them apart when it's directed at you.

[Snakey]

I was having a think for a while, and in fact there are quite a few companies that would also sue you for using somewhat common words. The trick is, those particular companies have some reasonably strong trademarks. The ones I could think of, of the top of my head were

Doom, Quake, Unreal and Civilization

These are all 'normal' words in the English dictionary, and you would probably be sued if you were to use any of them in your games. Difference is, is that, they are actually strong trade marks in the video game industry.

[mirosurabu]

Sometimes making people miserable is working solution, and in some situations it's the easiest effective solution.

I hate to admit that because I am not really fan of that whateveritis.

[raiten]

Hey guys,

Now you're just gonna think I'm even more obsessed, but I actually e-mailed Bo Jangeborg who developed Fairlight, published by Edge (hey, I'm actually a journalist). The name caught my eye because in a comment to the TIGsource post, somebody mentioned this guy was actually really talented. I checked out his game which really looks kind of awesome and ahead of its time (it was released in 1985, 2 years before the first Zelda). So, I wondered, what could his relationship with Langdell have been like? Anyway, this is what he told me (translated from Swedish)

"I had to get a lawyer to get them [Tim and Cheri] to pay me the money they owed me for Fairlight. They refused to pay me, unless I signed up to make more games for them. As a result, Fairlight II was released without my approval, with several known bugs. In the end, I ended up getting some money but they ended up with the rights to Fairlight [My note: that Langdell is now releasing for the WiiWare, according to his website]. I didn't sign up for any more games.....  ;o)"

"Generally speaking you could definitely say I'm not very fond of the Langdell's or their way of doing business. I can only state that they have spent a lot of time in court."

[Selben Coirlo]

Well that pretty much clinches it.