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February 09, 2010, 07:06:41 AM
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« Reply #855 on: August 01, 2009, 04:53:45 AM »

The information made available through the Chilling Effects group should be invaluable to people who have received a Cease and Desist letter. Hell, they helped Google with their C&D letters from Scientologists.
A comprehensive article on C&D letters can be found here.
I'll sum it up for the loosely interested:

C&Ds are meant to scare people into submission. Through a C&D, I request, in a formal and intimidating manner, that you stop doing something. This request can be reasonable, or laughable, depending on the facts and up-holdable laws. If you don't ask for legal advice, the above distinction won't matter : you'll probably cave in even if you don't have to.

Concerning the Velocity Micro C&D letter, EDGE's request is legally laughable. Velocity Micro is a computer hardware company, and operates on the computer hardware market. EDGE Games is a computer game developer and publisher. To enforce the trademark, a court would have to find that these markets are the same. Similar examples from the article make it clear that these are just scare tactics.
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« Reply #856 on: August 02, 2009, 08:21:31 PM »

From the comments on the Develop article about The Chaos Engine and Tim Langdell:

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If memory serves me correct isn't it Mr Langdell who has a restricting order against him in Santa Monica for stalking a beautiful actress (very weird story) and he was thrown out of BAFTA LA because of it I believe? (I read the papers in Santa Monica). Most people in video games will not have anything to do with him. He was an intensley disliked figure in the 80's. I think in the UK you call these people Vexatious Litigants. Something usually tips them over The Edge eventually!

So it turns out this is actually true - there was a restraining order taken out against Tim Langdell by an actress.  (The person who found this information and brought it to me would like to remain anonymous.)

https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/CivilCaseSummary/index.asp

Scroll to the bottom of this page, enter SS014653 as the case number, and then hit "Search".

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Case Number: SS014653
ALEXANDRA JAGO VS TIMOTHY R. LANGDELL

Filing Date: 08/15/2006
Case Type: Civil Harassment (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Judgment by Court-Petition granted 09/14/2006

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09/14/2006 at 08:30 am in Department WEA, Linda K. Lefkowitz, Presiding
Order to Show Cause - Pet Granted/Order Signed & Filed

The actress is Alexandra "Alexa" Jago (IMDB).  She is affiliated with BAFTA/LA in some way (here's a photo of her on the BAFTA/LA website).  Not only that, but Tim designed her website!  Here's the website: http://alexajago.com/

Note that Tim tried to have the court records expunged, which was DENIED.  Good call on that, judge!

Also, in the BAFTA/LA bylaws:

Quote from: Section 4. Termination or Suspension of Membership, And Other Disciplinary Measures.
(c) Disciplinary Termination or Suspension of Regular Voting Member. The membership
of any regular voting member may be terminated or suspended for any period (or some lesser disciplinary measures imposed) if the Board determines that the member

(i) has breached the Code of Conduct, or

(ii) has engaged in conduct materially and seriously prejudicial to the purpose of the
Corporation, or

(iii) has been convicted of a crime (other than a violation of the Vehicle Code of
California or other state); or

(iv) has had a restraining order or injunction issued against him/her for unlawful
harassment; or


(v) has had his/her membership of any BAFTA entity terminated or suspended; or

(vi) has conducted himself/herself in a manner which may be prejudicial to the security
or wellbeing of the members of the Corporation

The Board amended the bylaws to include this on September 5, 2007.  The restraining order was filed on August 18, 2006.  So yeah, it's not hard to imagine who the amendment was added for.

I wasn't planning on frontpaging this, because it's not directly related to Edge Games (I might add it as a small note on the Edge Games page).  But HOLY CRAP.  Just when you thought this man couldn't be more horrendous.

Maybe if Tom Buscaglia gets stalked he'll finally get the fucking picture.  IGDA... Facepalm
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« Reply #857 on: August 02, 2009, 08:27:37 PM »

I'd like to second this:  Facepalm
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« Reply #858 on: August 02, 2009, 08:59:28 PM »

 Epileptic

I feel weird after reading that.
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« Reply #859 on: August 02, 2009, 09:24:30 PM »

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« Reply #860 on: August 02, 2009, 09:28:55 PM »

Daaaaaa....
Looks like Tims secret weakness is TEH WIMENS.

Or something like that.
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« Reply #861 on: August 02, 2009, 09:30:12 PM »

Beauty sued the beast.
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« Reply #862 on: August 02, 2009, 10:18:41 PM »

Looks like Tims secret weakness is TEH WIMENS.

 Big Laff Big Laff Big Laff
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« Reply #863 on: August 02, 2009, 11:10:02 PM »

I wonder what his wife says to that...  Well, hello there!
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« Reply #864 on: August 03, 2009, 01:19:27 AM »

Probably "Please, pleeeaaase let me go now! What have I done to you? Lemme goooo" followed by a loud sobbing sound.
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« Reply #865 on: August 03, 2009, 05:14:59 AM »

Having followed this story from the start I'm coming to the conclusion that Tim Langdell may suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Without a proper evaluation there is no way to be sure, but from the information we have he does exhibit the most of the nine signs associated with the condition. NPD is a very serious condition and sufferers can become very angry and even violent if their lies are challenged.
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« Reply #866 on: August 03, 2009, 05:29:42 AM »

seems like langdgell copyrighted "Racers" as well, and... there's a game in development called Edgeracers by Twofish, Inc  http://www.edgeracers.com/
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« Reply #867 on: August 03, 2009, 06:08:43 AM »

There's just no end to this. Next thing we dig up on him will probably be a murder  Shocked
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« Reply #868 on: August 03, 2009, 06:20:35 AM »

For god's sake, frontpage that, everybody deserves to know that Langdell is not only a extortionist and a money stealing fuck, he's also a sicko who stalks younger girls.
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« Reply #869 on: August 03, 2009, 07:58:48 AM »

A couple more trademarks for the Edge info page:
  • EarthEdge - US filed 2006/12/21
  • Magic Edge - US filed 1997/04/30 (now dead)
  • Soul Edge - US filed 1997/04/30 (Now dead)
  • Cutting Edge - US filed ??/??/?? (Was owned by Marvel but now owned by Tim)

The EarthEdge trademark was originally owned by John Monroe Pafford, Jr. but after some legal wrangling that I couldn't understand it ended up in Tim's catalogue. The original filing was for mobile and virtual reality games and websites. Couldn't find any more out about Mr. Pafford so who knows what he was working on.

Also in Tim's registration for the Edge trademark he provides two examples of his use of the mark. One specimen is the Edge photoshoping job shown earlier in this thread, and the other is a really bad mock-up of a Bobby Baring mobile phone game box. As far as I can tell neither of these products are real, and the Edge magazine cover is proven to be a fake. So Tim has lied to the USPTO in order to get his Edge trademark, and that's grounds to revoke his trademark and can even result in prosicution. I'll upload the .pdf when I'm at home so people can confirm I'm reading it right.
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