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« on: May 29, 2009, 04:44:41 PM » |
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This is what's wrong with video games today (besides Wii Play being the best-selling game of the last year in the U.S.): InFAMOUS has gotten great reviews, and from what I've been playing so far, it could not be much more ridiculously awful. A few quick points: 1. The game's made by Sucker Punch, the makers of Sly Cooper, and it shows. The animation for the main character in all of his platforming is almost exactly the same as Sly Cooper's was. He climbs up ladders while swinging his hips and head back and forth like an idiot, because his animation was made for a cartoon raccoon. And his sidekick has the same animation as Murray the Hippo, holding his hands up in the air and bumbling about. If you've been wondering, that's why the main character looks like a rodent when he runs and jumps and climbs everywhere. 2. The writing is, well, terrible. You may say "That's to be expected" but it's completely incompetent. The opening scene is done awfully from every perspective. There are plenty of cool ways to introduce his powers, but they just don't. They fail at one of the easiest tasks in the entire game's script. Also, the narrated comic book-y cutscenes might be okay about once, but are an irritating way to convey the entire storyline. You have the money, and you're making a video game, so at least keep the cutscenes up to Scooby-Doo-level production values. 3. Penny Arcade went over this a bit: The moral choices are stupidly black and white, every time. Do you want to let the people eat this food in the street? Or kill them and take it all for yourself, even though in the game you don't need it for any particular reason? That's not exactly a dilemma. All of this wouldn't be so bad, if it weren't for the reviews. On Gamespot's review, they claim right up at the top that the game has an "enthralling story" and that its only cons are "A variety of both gameplay and visual glitches.". So, that's why I'm here at TIGSource. |
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 05:33:04 PM » |
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lets talk about bionic commando instead
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 05:44:36 PM » |
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i figure i need to earn the money capcom paid me for this eventually
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William Broom
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 06:52:17 PM » |
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I hate Sucker Punch, why did they drop their awesome Sly Cooper series for some shitty GTA clone?
And yeah, Gamespot is an awful website.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 07:10:42 PM » |
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For Reference:  I have not played either, but as an owner of the XBox 360, I can personally support the clear fact that Prototype is objectively better than Infamous. |
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Melly
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 08:30:22 PM » |
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I'll be honest, having one of the three points you criticize being that the animation is similar to that of Sly Cooper just sounds dumb.
The other two are pretty valid though.
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2009, 08:33:06 PM » |
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Well, having the same cartoony animation in what is supposed to be a more 'realistic' game is not that great.
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NathanielEdwards
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2009, 08:53:46 PM » |
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I'll be honest, having one of the three points you criticize being that the animation is similar to that of Sly Cooper just sounds dumb.
The other two are pretty valid though.
Yes, it's lazy, and it looks really dumb on a realistic human being. Let me find a video for you somewhere... http://www.gametrailers.com/video/demo-parkour-infamous/48977http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/first-26-mins-of-infamous/318943Especially watch the main character's sidekick when he runs in the second video. He runs with the same animation as Murray, a cartoon hippo. It's bouncy and silly looking, even more so than the main character's regular running animation. The game has some odd uses of production time, apparently, because clearly it has a huge production value, yet the animations are re-used from old games and the cutscenes are barely more than static pictures with narration. |
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Melly
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2009, 08:58:03 PM » |
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It honestly doesn't look that bad to me, but then again I haven't played Sly Cooper.
I mean, I can see how it could be improved, but it's not nearly as bafflingly bad as you say it is.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2009, 09:04:08 PM » |
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Hmm, the first video made me want to play it and the second one made me want to go to sleep, interesting. I don't see what is wrong with the animation though....
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2009, 09:08:39 PM » |
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Holeeeeee shit, those ARE Murray's animations.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009, 09:49:41 PM » |
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Now, I can't really say, since I haven't played the game, but it seems like all of those things could be forgiven if the game is fun to play. The Sly Cooper series was one of my favorites last generation, and they were a blast to play, while having a rather campy storyline. Now, I do admit from what you said that this game seems to lack a lot of the originality of the Sly Cooper series, but if it plays as well as the Sly Cooper games, it's got to be at least alright. So how is the actual gameplay?
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William Broom
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2009, 01:02:50 AM » |
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It honestly doesn't look that bad to me, but then again I haven't played Sly Cooper.
I mean, I can see how it could be improved, but it's not nearly as bafflingly bad as you say it is.
I don't think the animations are particularly bad. But they look hilarious because they're so obviously based on Sly. I wonder if Sucker Punch thought that players wouldn't notice or wouldn't care? Also, Sly's story, while campy, was really well-written with great voice acting. In comparison, those videos of Infamous make me want to cry. |
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2009, 01:10:15 AM » |
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Wii Play is bundled with the Wii (in most cases, from what I've seen). It is also a great, quick party game that everyone can play. It is lowering the entry barrier for video games and is fun for a wide variety of players.
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2009, 01:14:56 AM » |
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Wii Play is bundled with the Wii (in most cases, from what I've seen). It is also a great, quick party game that everyone can play. It is lowering the entry barrier for video games and is fun for a wide variety of players.
Well in any case it does come with a Wii Remote and is only slightly more expensive than a Wii Remote alone so obviously it makes sense to just take Wii Play when you buy your second Remote. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2009, 02:10:57 AM » |
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And Wii Sports has outsold Super Mario Bros. The times we live in.  |
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2009, 02:19:24 AM » |
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And Wii Sports has outsold Super Mario Bros. The times we live in. WHAT  |
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William Broom
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2009, 03:46:01 AM » |
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And Wii Sports has outsold Super Mario Bros. The times we live in. Um, that's not surprising at all? Since Wii Sports is bundled with the Wii, and Super Mario Bros was released at a time when the game industry was, what, half the size it is today? |
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NathanielEdwards
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2009, 07:02:34 AM » |
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Yeah, Wii Play was helped a lot by the bundled Wiimote. It's pointless to argue that it was good enough on its own to earn that, though. I hated it when I played it, and the people who were much more new to video games than me didn't like it, either, so that's not good if that's the game that most people are playing when they first try video games.
As for the animations, I'm sure I wouldn't care about them so much if I didn't realize they were the same as Sly's. When you do realize that, all his climbing and his weird standing stance look too raccoon-y to me, but Spider-Man's movement is kind of similar, I guess.
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