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[bigbear]

One thing that makes shooters (3d and 2d alike) stand out from others IMHO is slower moving projectiles that allow for dodging and maneuvering. This slow projectile dance is what I try to capture in all of my shooter games. I was first inspired by Tribes, and then by Infantry. Instead of just aiming up a target and firing, one had to engage in an elegant dance with one's opponent, strafing and dodging their stream of fire while trying to force them into yours. These games also had 100% projectile inheritance, which pairs nicely with manage-ably low velocities.

[xinasha]

Reminds me of people playing certain heroes in Overwatch...definitely adds a depth to the gameplay where now it's not just about your aiming skills, but also your predictive ability as you judge what your opponent will do next.

[bigbear]

Yes! I forgot to mention that. And to ask everyone what their favorite example of slow projectiles is. Also wanna say don't get me wrong, I love fast projectiles too (I played a lot of Counter-Strike), but the Spinfusor disc launcher from tribes is an iconic example of dodging and shoot. (Plus, SKIING)

[Raptor85]

Yes! I forgot to mention that. And to ask everyone what their favorite example of slow projectiles is. Also wanna say don't get me wrong, I love fast projectiles too (I played a lot of Counter-Strike), but the Spinfusor disc launcher from tribes is an iconic example of dodging and shoot. (Plus, SKIING)

the rocket launcher in UT2004 was JUST fast enough to be challenging to dodge but it was still humanly possible to weave your way through an incoming barrage of rockets...NOTHING in that game made you feel more of a badass than dodging  multiple spreads of rockets, closing in, and melee killing someone. Very similar actually to dodging the discs in tribes. 2k4 and tribes actually had a lot in common, they're part of the rare group of fps games that were mostly about movement mechanics and tactics.

It's crazy too how once you've played both games for a while you can make insane shot leads, firing a disk/flak ball/rocket a long distance at a fast moving target without really thinking and you just start mentally auto-leading to the exact spot they'll be at. I knew someone who was crazy good with the mortar in tribes and could straight up NAIL someone skiiing at full speed with it...he didn't even know how he was able to do it, it was just instinct because it was his fav weapon.

[bigbear]

I played UT2k4 a bit but something about the game flow couldn't keep me hooked the way Tribes did. But I did enjoy that rocket launcher. And yeah in Tribes there were some impressive snipers and such, but nothing like the crazy mortar users who somehow subconsciously do differential equations to know where they're gonna be Or mid-air to mid-air spinfusor head-shots.