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[s0]

It's worth mentioning that the Borderlands screenshot there seems to be running the game at a lower setting. There's a significant amount of detail on higher settings. At least, on my computer the textures do not look flat and boring unless I crank them down. But that's not really the fault of the designers.

i have the console version

[moi]

outlines like that (Borderlands) are the technical equivalent of putting zombies in your game. It's gimmicky and tasteless.

[JWK5]

Okami

[Theophilus]

Why have I never played that game? WHAT THE HECK MAN

[s0]

those screenshots dont represent okami very well imo. the in-game graphics are much blurrier and the palette is a lot lighter. there's also that "paper filter" over everything.



it's kind of a style-over-substance game but it competently rips off the zelda formula and puts some little spins on it here and there.

[JWK5]

I never really felt it lacked substance. The game had a great mythology-inspired story, charming characters, plenty of places to explore, lots of things to do (that didn't feel like tacked on MMO quests), fun battles, and good game play with a good control scheme. Did it feel like Zelda? Sure, and that was their goal.

Ōkami director Hideki Kamiya states that he has been influenced by The Legend of Zelda series in developing the title.

"I was disappointed when I saw [the] visuals," said Hideki Kamiya, a self-proclaimed Zelda freak. "I really wanted [Twilight Princess] to have regal aura, because Zelda was what were aspiring to."

[s0]

Yeah I know that. Don't get me wrong, Okami's a good game, I prefer it over Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. All that handholding is seriously annoying though. Also my experience with the game has been sullied by trying the horrible Wii port first (I sort of missed out on it when it was first released).

[JWK5]

Yeah I know that. Don't get me wrong, Okami's a good game, I prefer it over Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. All that handholding is seriously annoying though. Also my experience with the game has been sullied by trying the horrible Wii port first (I sort of missed out on it when it was first released).

How far did you get into it? The game only holds your hand till about Shinshu Plains and then it after that it really leaves you to your own devises. The game really pulls a 180 on you about midway through and toys with your expectations, which I thought was a clever trick (I won't spoil it for those of you who haven't played through it). All I'll say is that the game is a lot longer than it leads you to believe.

I hear a lot of people complain about the Wii version's controls, and I don't know if it is because I draw or what but I had absolutely no problems with it. In fact I was able to do a pseudo-portrait of my girlfriend (at the time) on the Celestial Brush screen as she was sitting next to me. Maybe you just have to have really good wrist control, I find it very similar to painting with a real brush as far as the movements go. I had both versions (PS2 and Wii) and I preferred the Wii version, the controls were a lot more fluid for me (I have better wrist control than thumb control).

[s0]

The paint brush stuff is pretty much all lines and circles iirc so it's easy to draw with a stick. thats not the wii port's main problem tho: they replaced the attack button with waggle so it's almost impossible (for me) to get the timing on the combos right.

[JWK5]

I actually had the opposite problem, I beat the Wii version before I played the PS2 version, so when I finally played the PS2 version I already had the waggle timing down and the button timing didn't feel right, lol. I eventually got used to it though. But yeah, a lot of people were complaining about the waggle.

[Inane]

If I remember right, the trick to the waggle is to alternate between horizontal and vertical motions?

[JWK5]

For Okami it was a lot like painting or conducting an orchestra, to attack I'd just flick the remote in a downward arc to the "beat" of the combo.

[s0]

If I remember right, the trick to the waggle is to alternate between horizontal and vertical motions?

The only "trick" there is to waggle is for devs to realize it's bullshit and not include it in their games. 

[Dragonmaw]

Waggle that doesn't use direction-specific motions (such as the aforementioned MadWorld) is the only kind of waggle I will accept.

[biomechanic]

The thing I really don't like about Borderlands are the black lines in the textures, as demonstrated by Baha:

[Dragonmaw]

Speaking of art styles...