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[Dragonmaw]

John.

This is single-handedly the most exciting game of the competition. HURRY UP. I NEED IT SO BAD.

[berareu]

This concept is EXCELLEEEEENT! Wish you luck my Game Maker brethern 
Are you gonna make it online?

[superflat]

You're on a crash course for awesome.

[ink.inc]

whatever you do, don't run this through a german translator...

Well this sure doesn't look like an Elder Scrolls game.

What do you mean? I've never really played through an Elder Scrolls, so I don't quite catch your drift...

This concept is EXCELLEEEEENT! Wish you luck my Game Maker brethern 
Are you gonna make it online?

My priorities are: Local multiplayer (on one PC), then LAN, then global. I'm really not too sure if I will be able to implement the last two in time, but I'll probably keep on chuggin' on those even after the compo ends.

John.

This is single-handedly the most exciting game of the competition. HURRY UP. I NEED IT SO BAD.

Thanks a bunch. That means a lot to me, comin' from you.

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Bit rough in places, but I'm satisfied for now. I'll probably add a bit of side-to-side for the head later.



I'll spend the rest of the day workin' on tiles and then animations.

[ness io kain]

Sweet concept; looking forward to where this goes!

...I'm basically just posting here to follow the thread more easily...

[Inanimate]

The arms seem a little short, and it evokes imagery of lightly stepping around broken glass; not sure if that's intentional! If you made the arms pump with the run as well, it'd be a lot more action-y.

[ink.inc]

Thanks for the tip; I'm not really the best animator (hit here for examples of how embarassing my shit was when I was doing stuff for Indie Brawl merely a year ago) so any advice on the topic is really helpful.

[FK in the Coffee]

whatever you do, don't run this through a german translator...

Well this sure doesn't look like an Elder Scrolls game.

What do you mean? I've never really played through an Elder Scrolls, so I don't quite catch your drift...

But I digress.  This is looking fucking awesome, John.  Hope you'll be able to implement everything as you see fit.  I can see this being a popular game for years to come.  Also, you can be sure I'm going to review it the day of release.

[ink.inc]

Gracias, man.
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MALE CHARACTER, NOW WITH 103% MOAR BEARD!

[davidp]

maybe this has been discussed before, i don't know, but WHAT IF...

one of them just stops collaborating half way in the game?

i mean - if you give all players something that will bring them victory or eventually destroy them, somebody will sooner or later stop cooperating and waste everything, so both die.

like, you have to find stuff to survive, but you have to work together. so if one of them stops helping, both die and no one wins?

Rise of nations had the similar "problem" where you had nuclear weapons you could use to win, but losing player could easily abuse them in a situation where he could only defend and nuke everything to armageddon, so no one won. only "moral" victory for the before-armageddon-winning guy.

just throwing some thoughts around.

also, last time i worked with GM local and global connections worked the same way, so if you get LAN stuff done, you have global too.

[ink.inc]

maybe this has been discussed before, i don't know, but WHAT IF...

one of them just stops collaborating half way in the game?

i mean - if you give all players something that will bring them victory or eventually destroy them, somebody will sooner or later stop cooperating and waste everything, so both die.

like, you have to find stuff to survive, but you have to work together. so if one of them stops helping, both die and no one wins?

Rise of nations had the similar "problem" where you had nuclear weapons you could use to win, but losing player could easily abuse them in a situation where he could only defend and nuke everything to armageddon, so no one won. only "moral" victory for the before-armageddon-winning guy.

just throwing some thoughts around.

Hmm. You bring up a good point. Both players would die if one player just stopped cooperating. Not too sure what I could do about folks just giving up on coop like that... Maybe I could have the AI director keep things a bit more balanced so that the loosing player doesn't gets too frustrated? Or just have more ways for the losing player to come back in general...

If folks are feeling uncooperative in general, I could just make a free play mode for folks who want to fuck around and murder each other.

...Another thing your post just made me think of: Like, say if one person had the food that the other player needed to win, and right before the other player could kill him, that person ate all the food.... In that case, maybe eating their body would provide more nourishment? We shall see.

also, last time i worked with GM local and global connections worked the same way, so if you get LAN stuff done, you have global too.

Thanks for the help! I'm pretty familiar with GM, but not with any of its networking capabilities. Still, my priorities lie with the 'two folks on one PC' setup; then I'll take care of online play later.
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The game will feature limited jetpack use. Why? Because it's unrealistic for these little guys to be able to jump twice their height... and because it feels too stiff when the player can only jump a smidgen. The solution? Jetpacks. They'll come auto-installed on your players.



They'll only run for a second or two at first (and will operate like the jetpack in Cave Story). But by finding certain supplies, you can upgrade them. In fact, food and water aren't the only collectibles on the planet. Aside from equipment, you can find crystals (original, I know) which you can use to upgrade your tools (blasters, drills, energy saws, scanners, etc) which you can then use to find more food and water... and maybe explore just what Vergessen has to offer.

Also made a little edits here and there to the female's run animation.


EDIT: Just realized that her head looks mildly retarded... I'll have to change that.

[Aquanoctis]

Run animation looks better, but maybe a bit stiff? I think it would look better if you could get them leaning forward slightly as they run. Good stuff! 

[davidp]

...Another thing your post just made me think of: Like, say if one person had the food that the other player needed to win, and right before the other player could kill him, that person ate all the food.... In that case, maybe eating their body would provide more nourishment? We shall see.

this sound extremely morbid yes, but i was thinking of same "solution" - if one player stops cooperating and he dies, you eat him and survive (maybe also get his stuff), meaning win
(it's not like it never happened before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571). This explanation is easy (or not? ) to believe, so you can just include in your story, when telling the aftermath of the game.

So you force players to play and try to win, not just achieve a draw or something.

[Sos]

We want playable demo!!!!

[namre]

I have to admit. This sounds pretty cool. I can picture myself now playing with my brother and screwing him over and over. Wahaha.

[Inanimate]

John, try running with your arms stuck straight out like that. It doesn't work well. The person should be bending their elbows a bit more with the swing. 

[JMickle]

i'd be more excited about this game if i wasn't really skeptical about you actually finishing it. a lot of ambition here.

of course, i hope you do

[ink.inc]

Yeah; luckily my classes are ridiculously easy so I can work on this all day every day, essentially. I've already gotten most of the basic framework of the engine done. So, here's hopin'.


My priorities are:

-starvation system
-permanent damage system
-two types of monster
-ai director
-exploration
-local 2 player

After that, I'll try to include:

-mining
-upgrade system
-everything else
-weather effects

[ink.inc]

ITS.............

ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE

[Melly]

Yeeeessssssss...........