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« Reply #300 on: July 17, 2009, 03:15:51 PM » |
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Maybe tantrum could work as a sort of counter move, similar to the Fire Emblem characters in Brawl. Let me explain --
As either Marth or Ike, if you press down and special, you enter a defensive stance for about a second. If any character attacks you within the first third or so of that second, Marth and/or Ike counterattack with a slash equal in strength to the attack countered (if they attack within the melee range of Ike or Marth -- if they use a projectile, the damage of that projectile is just negated). However, after that first third or however long it is, I'm not exactly sure, the counter is impossible to use and you become vulnerable to attack for the last two thirds of that second, stuck in the defensive stance.
Tantrum could work in a similar way. I mean, Dwarf doesn't have a longsword to swing around, and I don't think, given his character, it should look nearly as graceful, either, but.. maybe Dwarf should pound on the attacker for about half a second and then send them forward?
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« Reply #301 on: July 17, 2009, 05:37:12 PM » |
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Turner already has a counter like that. And it's not like the concept behind a Tantrum move is so great that it has to be included.
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« Reply #302 on: July 17, 2009, 05:38:41 PM » |
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Ah, didn't know that. Just wanted to put in my two cents.
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« Reply #303 on: July 20, 2009, 09:37:25 AM » |
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I think I've just about finished balancing the dwarf. Let me just float one more idea past you.
The one move I'm still really not happy with is Shield Charge. The dwarf needs a good defensive move to stand a chance against ranged attackers, but I can't make it a strong offensive move at the same time without making it overpowered. So I say, why not just make it a purely defensive move? Make it just like Naija's Shield Song. I think that would fit his fighting style better, while also having a more understandable effect for new players (some wondered why the shield didn't protect them from melee attacks). Plus it would be more true to shields in Dwarf Fortress.
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William Broom
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« Reply #304 on: July 20, 2009, 11:32:58 PM » |
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That sounds like a great idea to me.
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« Reply #305 on: July 21, 2009, 12:11:44 AM » |
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Taking out Tantrum and making Shield Bash defensive leaves the Dwarf with only one movement skill, Catapult, that is useful only when the opponent is almost on the other side of the stage. Wasn't one of the problems with the Dwarf, that he couldn't get close to ranged opponents fast enough? But eh, maybe the buffed range of his melee attacks might make up for it.
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« Reply #306 on: July 21, 2009, 01:56:39 AM » |
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What happened to the suggestion of making tantrum a charge-up move, like jigglypuff's rollout from smash bros?
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William Broom
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« Reply #307 on: July 21, 2009, 03:24:05 AM » |
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@Bremze: You have a good point, though I expect it would be offset somewhat by the fact that the Dwarf could easily use his shield move to punish projectile users. We can already see this in effect during matches between, say, Liero and Naija.
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Soulliard
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« Reply #308 on: July 21, 2009, 08:10:39 AM » |
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That's a good point. The Dwarf would no longer have a strong approach. However, there was no way to make Shield Charge both a strong approach and a strong defensive ability without overpowering it.
From playtesting, I can tell you that, with increased reach, and a strong defense against projectiles, the lack of an approach hasn't been a big problem, though. The dwarf is best when played as a defensive character.
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« Reply #309 on: December 25, 2009, 06:25:16 AM » |
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« Reply #311 on: December 25, 2009, 08:54:20 AM » |
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lovely lovely lovely loved it so much i did a quick touch up xD  made his face slightly less red, and his face slightly smaller. |
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Rostiger
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« Reply #312 on: December 25, 2009, 09:48:46 AM » |
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Ah, perfect, thanks!
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Mentalpatient109
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« Reply #313 on: December 25, 2009, 11:05:42 AM » |
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« Reply #314 on: December 25, 2009, 01:21:58 PM » |
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whoops haha didnt notice that!
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« Reply #316 on: December 30, 2009, 10:36:35 AM » |
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He now looks from one viking from Lost Vikings haha
less anime more badass
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« Reply #317 on: December 30, 2009, 04:51:30 PM » |
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He looks like he's crossing his eyes on the one on the left but not the one on the right..
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William Broom
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« Reply #318 on: December 30, 2009, 07:59:13 PM » |
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I prefer the first version of the eyes, it makes him look frightening. The crossed eyes just make him look like he's a few bricks short.
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« Reply #319 on: December 31, 2009, 06:59:40 AM » |
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You haven't actually played DF, have you?
ALL dwarves are a few bricks short.
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