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[Corpus]

Well uhh if you're going to start looking for a reason behind every placed block then I really don't have an answer to that.

Yeah, I didn't really express myself very well. Sorry about that. I've said plenty about it in the IRC now, though, so maybe you kinda get what I meant now.

[mjau]

I tried going for a darker color for tiles that aren't on the collision layer.  I think this improves readability (or not?)  Let me know!

Not entirely..  You've got a brighter layer behind the darker one, which doesn't work at all.  It just makes it look more busy, if anything.  What you should be aiming for here is called "atmospheric perspective".  In a nutshell, things further back get less contrast, less saturation, and hue shift towards the athosphere colour.  Usually blue, but anything should work as long as it's consistent.

[neon]

Not entirely..  You've got a brighter layer behind the darker one, which doesn't work at all.  It just makes it look more busy, if anything.  What you should be aiming for here is called "atmospheric perspective".  In a nutshell, things further back get less contrast, less saturation, and hue shift towards the athosphere colour.  Usually blue, but anything should work as long as it's consistent.

beat me to the punch.  listen to this man.

[___]

Well yeah, I know of atmospheric perspective, and that's what all the original mock ups were based off of.  But the issue came up that the palette of the marble tiles just weren't affected enough by it to "drop" out of the collision layer.  It worked really well on the rocks because they're brown, so adding just a little blue light to them makes them drop out considerably faster than objects that already have blue in them.

Anyway, I'm going to give it another go going back to the fading out with light on the backdrop tiles.  Also I think I'm going to ditch putting tiles in the brown space under the rocks.  A lot of people seemed to be in favor of it, but as soon as I did it all of a sudden it looks too Cave Story / The Underside for people... I'm trying to please as many people as I can with the style of the game early on here, so I appreciate all the feedback I've gotten thus far.  Thank you everyone!

Back to this then:

See what I mean?  There are some problem areas with this treatment of background tiles, just look at the group of blocks that are sitting just to the right of player.  Can you tell which are collidable and which aren't?

[Μarkham]

The background tiles are lighter, yes, but you've got more saturation in them.  The saturation should decrease with distance.

Here are some quick color edits from one of the screens:

I decreased the saturation (maybe a bit too much), increased the brightness (they are still darker than the foreground, though), and reduced the brightness gap between shades.

I hope this helps any.

[___]

Ahh I have done more experimenting based off of your edits.

[Cagey]

Gotta say thats a nice improvement. The readability is far better now, although i wouldn't have guessed the block the character is standing on was a foreground object. It needs to be a little bolder imo.

[___]

Geh fuck try this.  Quick change.

[Xion]

Much better, I think.

[___]

another to try


Its just killing me trying to lower the saturation.  I mean look at the colors for the marble and pillars and shit already, theyr'e almost close to 0 saturation.  THEY CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS CAPTAIN.

I'm pretty exhausted right now and have no idea if I'm even posting the right version OHWELL YAHOOOOO

[Xion]

What? No. That's a step back. << Ignore.
I don't think it's the saturation that's causing reading issues, but the contrast. Try doing away with one of the extremes - highlights or shadows - or at least bringing them closer to the midtone - and see how it turns out.

[diwil]

I think the background looks fine now, in comparison to the previous shots. However, the dirt looks a bit too unsaturated/uncontrasted, maybe increase the saturation/contrast on the foreground layer to really make it pop up? In comparison with the guy in the scarf, it looks kind of... Bland.

[___]

Took a break from pixels for THIS.



The main character on the right and some sort of arch nemesis rival character on the left.  Woo.

[neon]

quite nice

is the one on the left a boy or a girl?

and will this whole thing be set in the "forest with inexplicable greek pillars" area?

[Renton]

I have to say this.
It looks like 90 degrees out there. Why the furry thick jacket and scarf? He also looks like he's of African or Latin American descent. He should be used to the warm climate. Isn't he burning in that outfit?

[Corpus]

Clearly you haven't visited England, Canada, etc. Trees + blue sky can go hand in hand with freeze-your-balls-off icy winds.

[Renton]

I live in a city where winters are gray and summers are yellow. We have blue sky days, but never with this much green on trees.
Anyways. The piece looks good. The arch-nemesis kid looks like some rich/snobby bastard. Oughtta hit him in the mouth with a cricket bat.

[___]

quite nice

is the one on the left a boy or a girl?

and will this whole thing be set in the "forest with inexplicable greek pillars" area?

It's a boy.  And the whole thing wont be set in a foresty greek pillar world, that's just the environment I pixeled out so far, so that's the one I drew.

I have to say this.
It looks like 90 degrees out there. Why the furry thick jacket and scarf? He also looks like he's of African or Latin American descent. He should be used to the warm climate. Isn't he burning in that outfit?

I like the scarf, and it's going to be sort of important to the game.  And you don't know... in that world it could  be -20 degrees out there.  

Oh, I see Corpus has already rushed to my defense.

And yes, hes going to be a rich snobby bastard so I'm glad I accomplished that with his look :D

[Adamski]

Why do all your characters have like the same faces? T_T Perhaps play around with different facial structures?... it helps when defining the personality of a character, rather than them all looking like the same template with snubby/button noses 

[___]

Yeah, I've drawn myself into a corner with most of the faces I make.  I know I have a problem drawing cutesy animus faces on everything instead of doing more interesting faces with different structures.  I'll try to force myself out of my comfort zone when I (eventually) get designing some of the other characters that may be involved in the game. ;p