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Title: Push vs. Shove [FINISHED]
Post by: nihilocrat on January 17, 2011, 08:43:48 PM
TWO SHALL JUMP

ONE MUST FALL

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7043/pushvsshove07.png)

PLAY NOW ON THE WEB PLAYER (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/253784/pushvsshove.html)
(standalone builds: win (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/253784/pushvsshove_win.zip), mac (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/253784/pushvsshove_mac.zip))
(Local multiplayer only for now)



Controls:
Player 1:  Arrow keys (Move / Aim), Right Ctrl (Jump), Shift (Push)
Player 2:  WASD (Move / Aim), Tab (Jump), ` (backtick) (Push)

The title screen says to hold down 'Button 2' : that's the "Push" button.



POST-COMPO version with bugfixes and such:
Please use the version above for deciding who to vote for in the competition.
Afterwards, please try this newer version.
web player (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/253784/pvs_v3.html)
Windows (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/253784/pushvsshove_v3_win.zip)
Mac (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/253784/pushvsshove_v3_mac.zip)


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: Inanimate on January 17, 2011, 08:45:46 PM
I love that visual style! Why the 3D, though?


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: nihilocrat on January 17, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
Because Unity.


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: Inanimate on January 17, 2011, 08:52:13 PM
Because Unity.

Ah. Do you plan on using the 3d for anything? Having perspective flips could be cool, or moving the camera on deaths, or something.  ;)


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: jwk5 on January 22, 2011, 05:02:01 AM
Despite the game being somewhat ambiguous at this point those screenshots of it look awesome! To see how the graphics will look in play is reason enough alone for me to keep tabs on this, but the game play possibilities sound pretty interesting too!


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: nihilocrat on January 27, 2011, 11:14:04 PM
After much laziness, I managed to fix a kind of critical bug and add some effects.

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4936/pushvsshove01.png)

The blue explosion effect is much lower than it should be for no apparent reason, and I realized screenshots don't really help to convey what's happening, but I figure I should at least show something.

But now I have a playable prototype, that's what counts. Hopefully I can find some willing playtesters nearby. Considering the simplicity of the game it might not be hard to add network multiplayer.


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: goshki on January 28, 2011, 12:54:35 AM
(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/5494/pushvsshove00.png)

So THAT's how you do 2D games in Unity! :noir:


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: PlayMeTape on January 28, 2011, 02:19:23 AM
Hey nihilocrat. Just wanted to ask if you considered using the SpriteManager: http://www.unifycommunity.com/wiki/index.php?title=SpriteManager

It's supposed to increase performance for 2d visuals in Unity. I'm not sure how necessary it is in you case though. I'm assuming your using Unity 3.0 and with the dynamic batching I guess you don't really have a problem with draw calls. Just thought you might be interested anyways.

Good luck with the project!


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: Sos on January 28, 2011, 03:41:53 AM
This is the best use of unity i've seen. I really hope for some bullettime 3d action!


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: nihilocrat on February 03, 2011, 06:09:05 PM
Finally got some playtesting! It went really well, I have a lot of bugs to fix, and only a handful of features to implement, and I'm calling it done. It's a pretty simple concept, doesn't make sense to go overboard with it.

After the bugs are fixed I'll post a version up. No network multiplayer, though I think I will put that in if I have the time.


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: nihilocrat on February 12, 2011, 01:37:13 PM
Hey nihilocrat. Just wanted to ask if you considered using the SpriteManager: http://www.unifycommunity.com/wiki/index.php?title=SpriteManager

It's supposed to increase performance for 2d visuals in Unity. I'm not sure how necessary it is in you case though. I'm assuming your using Unity 3.0 and with the dynamic batching I guess you don't really have a problem with draw calls. Just thought you might be interested anyways.

I've played around with that and for this project I will just avoid it because of the very low number of sprites on the screen. There are some game ideas I have, though, that would use a 2.5D look sort of like DooM, with a combination of 3D models and sprites, so I think I'll get more seriously into SpriteManager when I visit those ideas. Alec Holowka has some good input on the subject because he is combining 2D and 3D with Unity in Marian: http://bitcollective.ca/forums/index.php?topic=21.0

As for the game, I need to get unlazy and finish the final pieces, namely special block types and modified spawning rules. I also want to find a cooler name, I'm up for suggestions.


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: nihilocrat on February 15, 2011, 10:25:13 PM
gotta go to bed, so, just pictures for now:

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8602/pushvsshove02.png)

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9796/pushvsshove03.png)

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5364/pushvsshove04.png)

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8901/pushvsshove05.png)

playable web demo soon!


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: Inanimate on February 16, 2011, 03:58:05 PM
It'd be interesting if the thrown blocks spun, to show off the 3D.


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove
Post by: nihilocrat on February 18, 2011, 02:40:09 PM
Whoops, finally got around to posting the playable build, bump!

Inanimate : you really don't like seeing a 2D Unity game stay "pure" 2D, do you? :)  I actually like your suggestion, and it's a 2-minute addition, so I think I'll put it in.


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove [PLAYABLE DEMO]
Post by: Destral on February 18, 2011, 08:39:27 PM
Well, it's already made in 3D. If with a little more time you can get some extra visual flash/pizzazz/allure that makes the game look cooler/more exciting, then why not? :)


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove [PLAYABLE DEMO]
Post by: moonmagic on February 19, 2011, 03:53:33 PM
This is cute and fun! However, it is impossible for both players to play on my keyboard, due to silliness of the tiny Apple keyboard and its lack of a second control button. Would love to be able to define keys.



Title: Re: Push vs. Shove [PLAYABLE DEMO]
Post by: nihilocrat on February 20, 2011, 10:40:33 AM
Did a lot of work to get special blocks in and fix bugs. I'll get a standalone build out soon (tm).


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove [PLAYABLE DEMO]
Post by: nihilocrat on February 20, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
Standalone builds posted!

Now looking into screen capture programs. Never could find a "perfect" method to use for Windows so now I am looking at "Good Enough" (fraps).


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove [FINISHED]
Post by: nihilocrat on March 09, 2011, 09:16:18 PM
Presented the compo final version at the Mount Royal Game Society meetup, uncovered some embarassing bugs / oversight! I will try to fix them, fix the controls, and release a post-compo version for non-judging purposes.


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove [FINISHED]
Post by: nihilocrat on March 14, 2011, 08:12:18 PM
Post-compo version posted. Most physics weirdness has been avoided this time around, and the game returns to the title screen after every play so new players can read the instructions.


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove [FINISHED]
Post by: tzachs on March 18, 2011, 03:31:48 PM
Nice game, but I think it could be more fun with some small tweaks:
-Make the screen move a bit slower, cause we died a lot.
-Make it so when a player dies and respawns, it respawns closer to where the opponent is at (height-wise), we really haven't succeeded in pushing a block on each other once.

Also, a major issue when playing on internet explorer:
Ctrl+D is a shortcut to add a favorite, so it constantly stopped the game, and we had to download the pc version...


Title: Re: Push vs. Shove [FINISHED]
Post by: Theon on March 20, 2011, 03:07:50 AM
I can't even get the game to start, because there is no singular "backtic"-key on my Norwegian keyboard...
I have to press Shift+\ and then press another key to make ` here  :facepalm: