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Welcome Tigglets to the "TIGS Compo Secondary Public Awards!"

With the massive concentration of awesome in the competitions hosted at TIGSauce I decided that it would be fun to, AS WELL as the main compo winner voting, to have a series of votings for different aspects of the games, like best aesthetic, best character, most addictive, etc.

Let me know if I'm crossing the line or anything Derek, and people should give me ideas for different awards. I'll create polls around a week after the deadline, or maybe after the actual winner is announced, so people can have the chance to play all finished entries.

What do you guys think?

Oh, good idea :) We really should have done this with the VGNG contest too. Probably a good idea not to have too many categories, though.

I'm sure Derek'll be cool with it. Well, I think he will be.

Best Music
Best General Audio
Most Original Concept
Best Collaboration
Buggiest Entry
Best Sticky-Ball-Based Throwing Mechanic

I'll be sure to choose a maximum of 5 to 7 or so. I'll give greater priority of choice for the ones people suggest the most.

Most Promising But Not Actually Very Good On The Day?

Gots to win something. Even a raspberry.

Funny that I even suggested exactly the same thing during VGNG... but none listens to me anyway, eh?  ???

So since the procedural-compo-idea was MY IDEA and this category-voting was intentionally MY IDEA... why not?

YOU PRICKS.  :D


BaronVicious  ;)

Great idea! A few suggestions for categories:

Best art style
Best audio
Best concept
Best design
Most polished
Best unfinished entry?


 :D :D

"Most impressive procedurally generated content" or something along those lines should definitely get a mention, if nothing else :)

What? Who said that?

BaronCid:
a) You constantly say that people aren't listening to you.
b) People do listen to you.
c) As discussed last time you claimed that the PG compo was your idea, yes, it may well have been, but it's something that has been talked about a number of times before. It was a lot of other people's idea, too.
d) Note that Melly didn't just suggest such a voting system - he took it into his own hands.

There should definitely be a "Most Ambitious" category :D

I think something that gets overlooked often is, Best Menu Screen. =) The menu screen is the first thing people see and first impressions say a lot...

Other potential categories:

• Could've been a VGNG entry with that title
• Most/It's So "Indie"
• Easiest/Hardest Game

Keep the suggestions coming people. I'll wait until the deadline so that Derek has all the finished entries (and so I know which entries did not make it) and then it'll be easier to pick cathegories based on those entries. Though I'm getting the idea of making a "Most promissing entry that didn't make it" cathegory. Consolation prize. :)

a.) so what?
b.) but they don't seem to notice what they hear from me. which bugs me. but may not be their fault, so I better just overlook it.
c.) well, my description of the rules where quoted to a certain extent.
    indeed I didn't invent the topic...
d.) I think it's a good think he did it but it's pretty arguable if it's always
    a good idea to start managing things in *almost* official forums without
    being an official administrator. In this case it was a good idea because
    everyone seems to be happy with it (including me) but I didn't want to
    step on anyone's feet back then, so I just slightly suggested it.
    None seemed to notice what I suggested.

But hey guys, I don't wanna be the old venecian jew wanting the other guy's blood and tears because he actually earns it.
It's cool, really.

At least I know that my ideas please people. That pleases me.  :)


BaronCid

oh, and:

Best game which doesn't need computers to run it.
Best game which utilizes playing cards to display graphics.
Strangest game.
(2-day-faith-to-a-certain-degree-leaking-campaign: EXPANDED :D )
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Game with most potential after the compo.


BaronCid

Hey, I did mention that Derek could pull the stops if he thought I was exceeding myself. :P I just feel that with a friendly demeanor cool things can be done, and I kind-of got confortable proposing odd things in these forums. If people don't get interested in them the threads simply drop to the bottom of the pile harmlessly.

And nice cathegories there, though I feel each cathegory must have more than one competitor in it. :P

Come on, everyone. It's human hugs time.

So far here are some I'm thinking of having:

Best visuals
Best audio
Most unique
Most compelling/fun
Best use of procedural generation
Most promissing entry that didn't make it

And maybe a couple of joke ones:

Buggiest
The one you wanted to play the most but couldn't! (yayxna!)
Most Indie 8)

Why not just have a best and worse of each category. So, best background music and worst background music (with no background music being not an option, its got to be terrible to win). Do the same for "best/worst game", then add the vaporware category? "Most/least fun" :)

You have much to learn, young Tigsauce...

Declaring a game not made for financial succes is bad is the most unindie thing you can do. There is no "worst" because everything is god-fucking-awesum.
Copy that?  ;)

BaronCid

I think it'd be too mean to have worst cathegories.

Unless it runs on XNA? :) Actually, I'm in favor of mostly positive categories when I think about it, I'd qualify for too many of the negatives. :(

The "games you couldn't play" isn't a cathegory for bad games, but games you couldn't get working. :P But I might drop it.

How about "Best game made at the last minute"? 8)

Working on something you're not telling us about, Terry? ;-)

Maybe* :D

* No

[edit] I lied! :D

Nah, you can't really prove that your game really was made on the last minute. I know most people here are honest, but I'd rather not dwell in uncertain things. :P

I finished my game "Faith, to a certain degree" on the sunday, monday before the deadline. :D Hours and hours of worship to Microsoft Office. (and my Saitek-keyboard)(ohmygawditexportsPDFafterIinstalledtherightpluginyaaaaay)

I was thinking about this! Or moreso, that it's going to be a bastard to pick three entries. Some Aux categories would ease my mind whilst voting!

Also, Last Minute category should be go!

A mere three votes again would be torture. :o

best physics!

Love the idea of secondary awards.

Maybe not as a category, but I think all the multi-platform games should get special gold stars. Props to people providing mac/linux binaries.

With so many entries, I'll see if I can create pools that let you vote for 5 entries or less. Derek should also pay heed and give us around 5 votes for the main winner voting too, or else it'll be another nightmare to decide. :P

Man, 40 entries... these pools might be a bit challenging to create, but I already took the responsability so here goes.

Keep giving me suggestions. I'm thinking that at least 10 games should qualify for a cathegory.

Well, from my suggestions over at the 4E6 contest, cross platform is a great category. You know, for us Linux zealots, oh, and those mac... people too. :)

Probably could break apart the PG stuff for the sub-entries, you know like PG music, PG textures, PG layout, etc. Actually, I have a reasonable entry for layout and music. :) PG dialog I don't though.

Best shump, explorer (like Metroid's hidden stuff), easter eggs. A category for casual game or the classic categories (rpg, platformer, etc).

# of votes should be (int) (log(entries))+1. :) Because everyone loves log. More so for International Log!

Hehe, I can't really understand logs *sucks at math*

Anyway, I still have a while and I want to see all the finished entries before deciding, but thanks for the suggestions.

CastException :P

I propose log base pi. Because no-one has a single button on their calculator for log base pi. ;-)

*waits for photographic evidence proving him wrong*


Basically, it means that you get an extra vote on an increasingly-infrequent basis as entry counts go up.

The log_n of a number X is the power to which you would have to raise n in order to get X. So, for example, log₁₀(10) = 1, because 10¹ = 10. log₁₀(100) = 2, because 10² = 100.
So basically, when the number of entries crosses a n-to-the-power-of-an-integer boundary, you get another vote. So if we used log₁₀(entryCount) + 1, you'd have two votes for 10-99 entries, three votes for 100-999 entries, four votes for 1000-9999 entries, and so on.

(Of course, if you used traditional rounding instead of a truncation to get an integer number of votes out, then you'd get the vote earlier 'cause log₁₀(X) = 0.5 for an X somewhere between 31 and 32, but that's beside the point.)


Traditionally, "log" on its own means a log base of 10, and "ln" means a log base of e (2.7somethingsomethingsomethingetc.). So I'd suggest that ln(entryCount) + 1 might be better than log(entryCount) + 1 if people were complaining that three votes wasn't enough already! ;-)

I'm too sleepy to understand any that you wrote there. :o

Anyway, I'm gonna keep it simple. Number of votes will be a seventh of the number of entries elligible for each cathegory, rounded up.

• Most compact game.

The contest rules say:

We need to pick a winner among the games also focusing on the latter! I saw a "64kB shooter"-entry out there!

My game was also pretty tight, until I cheated during the last minute stress and added a .png-image and an image-loading-library that together tripled the size of my game.  :P

Haha, like I said, at least around a fourth of the total entries need to be elligible for a cathegory for me to use it, otherwise there isn't much competition, but I'll keep an eye for very small entries and we'll see.

I'm going to do the most generic cathegories first. Depending on how people get into it I'll do more until around 10 or so max.

But pretty much every game in a PG contest should be eligible for a "most compact"-category! I don't know if it's only me, but the PG-rate/PG-focus of every game is an interesting factor to me!

No, that parses perfectly fine, at least in C-based languages. It just truncates it when it converts to an integer, but I'm just rude that way (that and we don't have a system for 1.23 votes).


Oh, I never thought about that. I agree, log_π(x) would be awesome. Not going to happen, but still... (bah, the pi character looks horrible in this font).


See, there is where I screwed up. I keep forgetting that it is log₁₀ when you write it by hand because the C# Log is base e. I use log() a lot in my scoring, mainly because it helps reduce that pinball mechanic and give you the nice feeling of rapid success at the beginning but really makes a +1 score a challenge later. Kind of the same reason

As for compact, nope, didn't even try. :P