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[gimymblert]

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[TacoBell_Lord]

Agreeing with the 1st reply post Shenmue was really remarkable, there was at least one soul Ryo had to speak to & if it wasn't about Sailors they weren't important.

I say Oblivion cities were superb, most of them were really interactive. There was always something you could do in any town, something rare that an NPC had, some odd quest to collect. Fallout 3 was very similar (ofcourse), & even though I love it, Oblivion detail & beauty was amazing, an guild office that span throughout the entire world, because of the cities/towns in the game one could play the game for more than 30+ and not touch the Main quest.

I guess my answer is to capture the true nature is to always have something that a person looks for in a City; People - good & bad. Diversity where you can be the pickpocket-ee. Characters always make the game, so a City should always have something going on. People + Randomness.

[iggie]

@The Bag - As a world-designer it is interesting adding all the details and AI economics and behaviours, but I agree as a player it has to have some definite gameplay handles and feedback to make sense as a game. I'm slowly making that transition in my own game, stripping out 'clever' simulation stuff and replacing it with fun gameplay stuff. Anyway it is great hearing about this in context of a big studio (and a little disconcerting to hear how many man years go into these little details!)

[gimymblert]

Fable is an incredible simulation but it fall short at being believable because it try to much to simulate the structure of social world rather than the experience, which it make it pretty shallow.

Actually some j game like harvest moon, tokimemo, love plus does this with better success and less complexity because they focus on the player and his relation to the world. They simulate the meaning of relation rather than its structural reality. NPC had personality and their reaction matter.