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« Reply #1520 on: January 12, 2016, 11:23:14 AM »

Okay cranky me is taking all of that back, it's neue writing as in, let the damn audience filling the blanks and offer a framework to insert self projection. Movie aren't consume the same way we used to, now it's embeded in faster social production, movie aren't close piece they are transactional affect with social network, something to share, collab and extend.

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« Reply #1521 on: January 12, 2016, 12:07:17 PM »

Yeah but isn't John Williams like, known for having really great memorable melodies? Why would he switch to making moody music all of a sudden?
actually he only has a few memorable leifmotifs. all his other soundtrack work is boring stuff imo.
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« Reply #1522 on: January 12, 2016, 12:10:56 PM »

john williams has done lots of mood stuff yes. it's just that mood music usually isn't memorable to people (because it's not meant to be).

also he is mainly notable for bringing back orchestral, symphonic film scores in a big way in the late 70s. jaws and star wars, both composed in a late romantic style, started the neo-symphonic trend after the previous decade was very pop/jazz/etc driven.
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« Reply #1523 on: January 12, 2016, 12:12:51 PM »

Okay cranky me is taking all of that back, it's neue writing as in, let the damn audience filling the blanks and offer a framework to insert self projection. Movie aren't consume the same way we used to, now it's embeded in faster social production, movie aren't close piece they are transactional affect with social network, something to share, collab and extend.

I looked at fan works and they extended aggressively everywhere I had issues

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« Reply #1524 on: January 12, 2016, 12:32:33 PM »

are you sure you are doing communication study, I swear it's all about music history lol
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« Reply #1525 on: January 12, 2016, 02:21:58 PM »

it's a hobby/passion Tongue

ive also taken music classes btw. the post above is actually paraphrased from a lecture on film music i took last year.
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« Reply #1526 on: January 13, 2016, 05:24:14 AM »

Yeah but isn't John Williams like, known for having really great memorable melodies? Why would he switch to making moody music all of a sudden?
It's not really moody, it's lots of motivic work done where a handful of motifs show up in loads of variations and changeups. There's no "new" melodies there and loads of rhythmic stuff and transitions, so you don't notice the motifs that much I guess.

Yeah Rey's theme is a standout. There are like 3 or 4 melodies in there that show up EVERYWHERE in the soundtrack.


I think if you go to the soundtrack page and listen to the credits, the music there is basically a medley of (almost?) all of the new motifs.
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« Reply #1527 on: January 13, 2016, 06:04:30 AM »

What i meant is that in modern film scores, due to the prevalence of the mood technique, there's much less emphasis on music as an integral part to filmmaking in general. so even movies with heavily leitmotif-driven scores like star wars 7 will have fewer instances of the music being really integral to a scene because that sort of use of music would probably register as "old fashioned" to audiences. the last mainstream director who works like that is probably tarantino (whose movies are very scant on leitmotifs btw).
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« Reply #1528 on: January 13, 2016, 10:00:50 AM »

while you're in the subject maybe you can explain to me why anyone would have someone other than ennio morricone score their movie
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« Reply #1529 on: January 13, 2016, 10:10:05 AM »

because they might want jesper kyd
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« Reply #1530 on: January 13, 2016, 10:47:40 AM »

because they might want jesper kyd


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« Reply #1531 on: January 13, 2016, 01:16:23 PM »

also morricone is an old man whose film music got a lot less interesting once he went to hollywood (imo)
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« Reply #1532 on: January 13, 2016, 02:38:47 PM »

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« Reply #1533 on: January 13, 2016, 02:56:44 PM »

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« Reply #1535 on: January 17, 2016, 05:11:21 PM »

i saw THE REVENANT aka leonardo dicaprio gets mauled by cgi bear and is white savior: the movie.

it was good and will probably turn out to be a better modern western than tarantino's hateful 8. morality was a little too black n white tho, esp for a revenge story, and the extra white savior type stuff with dicaprio's native american son (who ofc gets killed) was a little overbearing.
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« Reply #1536 on: January 18, 2016, 01:07:10 AM »

Did Hugh Glass have a son?
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« Reply #1537 on: January 18, 2016, 02:48:24 AM »

Here's the films I've seen in 2015, ranked:
-The Revenant
-Steve Jobs
-Ex Machina
-Mountains May Depart
-The Hateful Eight
-Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
-Sicario
-The Clan
-Mad Max: Fury Road
-The Program
-Brooklyn
-Love & Mercy
-The Lobster
-The Gift
-The Martian
-Room
-Mission Impossible - Rogue Nation
-Star Wars: The Force Awakens
-The Night Before
-The Final Girls
-Carol
-Black Mass
-High-Rise
-Southpaw
-Jurassic World
-Chappie

Films I still need to see in no particular order:
-Everest
-The Assassin
-Legend
-Hitchcock/Truffaut
-Anomalisa
-The Tribe
-The Big Short
-The Danish Girl
-Phoenix
-99 Homes

I loved The Revenant so much waited over a year and it was worth it man, what a movie why can't all movies be that good. Also I really hated The Hateful Eight but I can't deny that it was incredibly entertaining so I ranked it pretty high. Would never watch it again though. The Revenant though, man just pure mastery.

Ryuichi Sakamoto's score is also mesmerizing and in light of Bowie's death listen to this.





EDIT: Also my 2016 list so far if anyone wants to keep track of what's coming, very incomplete:
-Frank & Lola
-Salt and Fire
-Midnight Special
-Loving
-The Light Between Oceans
-Only Yesterday
-La La Land
-Silence
-The Nice Guys
-Hail, Caesar!
-The Circle
-Knight of Cups
-The Witch
-The Story of Your Life
-Everybody Wants Some
-The Neon Demon
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« Reply #1538 on: January 18, 2016, 03:06:13 AM »

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Ryuichi Sakamoto's score is also mesmerizing and in light of Bowie's death listen to this.

you mean ryuichi sakamoto, alva noto and some dude from the band "the national" who i've never listened to's score.

i used to be really into all of this experimental electronic crap. i would never have expected alva noto to pop up in the credits of a hollywood movie YET HERE WE ARE
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« Reply #1539 on: January 18, 2016, 08:29:34 AM »

Best movies ever with best song tracks?



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