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« on: June 27, 2008, 11:07:14 PM »

Video games are a waste of time.  They're addicting, manipulative, and hardly ever rewarding.

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 11:18:51 PM »

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HERESY!

EDIT: Wait, no, I may have more to say on the topic. I have mused on it long and hard - and come to no real conclusion. Especially in terms of addiction. I'm probably somewhat addicted to video games. Though I prefer Videogame-Seeky. I do wonder what I would do if I didn't care about little digital characters running around, interacting, shooting, going for high score, saving the world and etc on my screen. Would I make more time for creativity? Studies? Or just television? (Joking! Television's arse. Whoa. Mozilla doesn't think arse is a real word! MADNESS!)

Um, anyways, firstly Games have been part of my life for so damn long that I'm sure beyond all sureness they're ingrained into my way of thinking, and in fact may help any creative processes. On terms of rewards, I can think of no other medium that do what games can do. They can allow one to become PART of a story, rather than just observe it. And the action, for that matter. Character development. Not all games are about that, and I play those too, but I think as far as reasonably sedentary casual recreation goes, games are along side books. The rewards are reasonably genuine, though- even when you're not listening to wonderful music, looking at gorgeous art, or being immersed in a story, there's still nothing wrong with making high score!

I read an article recently that claimed that video games destroy the creativity AND PERSONALITY of today's Impressionable Youth, and that Things Were So Much Better Back In The Old Days. I read it once, and was going to post a scan of it with a DISCUSS topic, but I re-read it, and it was both sensationalist and absurd. Basically, Neuroscientist claims that Gamer's senseless push for a new high score, or to kill more dudes, was turning our minds to mush, and not allowing any individual spark to set in. Of course, when you see a community such as this- making music, art, discussing mechanics and story and character- well, I feel you'd understand why I discarded the (Four Page) article.

Whew, long. I stop writing now, otherwise I go Essay. Also sorry about grammar, word structure. Mind feel funny todays. Also Also, Melly think wrong about joke thread. Important to discuss idea like this- valid, at least to debunk. Plus, those chumps who play hour on hour of WoW or CS or somesuch, I think Seth's Devil's Advocate accusation may very well be spot on. I think those kinds of games are a dreadfully dull way to spend one's rest-time. Shite, 'nother paragraph. STOP NOW!
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 11:20:59 PM »

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Hoozah.

They are pretty good, did you try LEGO Indiana Jones?
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2008, 11:23:38 PM »

They're only heavily manipulative to people unable to differentiate reality from fantasy.

Also, this smells greatly of joke thread.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2008, 11:35:46 PM »

Hello. I spent the last year of my life testing the Gran Turismo/Polyphony Digital physics engine. The game in which the testing began was Gran Turismo HD. This was the first online version of Gran Turismo and was used as a test game so they could improve their physics engine using players, input and intellectual property. I was the highest ranked player at this game because I have a lot of practical ability with physics, and the steering wheel, which is used for these games. From the beginning I was creating circumstances their physics engine couldn’t account for and my reactions were too fast for their code to keep up with. They realised this and that’s how this testing process began.
They were making, what I thought were minor changes for 6 months, but having done some research and asked around, I now know these minor changes were major breakthroughs for binary code. Basically, if you can write code that can hold under my input, it will hold for anything. All this testing was done during normal driving but when I started using their drift physics engine that’s when they gave me a job and they began building the physics engine around me.
They tried about 4 different models at the start. Each one failed except the last one, and this is the model that was used for the rest of this stage of testing. The majority of the work I did over the next month was trying to get rid of the stupid laws they were using to determine how the car should act and react while drifting. Yamauchi liked the idea that his laws were controlling the car because in his own little world he was God. Eventually after this month, the laws of physics were finally controlling how the car would behave at all times because I made a joke of every attempt they made to fake the laws of physics. A lot of face was lost during this time because Yamauchi didn’t like the fact that his laws were no longer in the game but in the end the car was behaving more realistically.
After the general range of motion of the car was figured out and working with the laws of physics, the next area I exposed that needed to be worked on, was the inertia of the tyres and in particular the contact areas, where the tyre meets the track. They developed 1 dimensional squares of code that represented the contact areas and the grip lost while drifting. These squares were another major breakthrough and behaved like living breathing code that could monitor the grip while the car was drifting.
Over the next 3 months I did more physical work than anyone ever has, physically grinding the front tyres into the track while the car was drifting, at every possible time and at every possible angle. This was done because as tyres only have a certain amount of surface area, it is possible through testing, to catalogue and record the movement of every part of the contact area, at every possible time, inertia included. After all this work was done, and there was a lot of it, the information I had produced, completely filled the 1 dimensional squares of code I mentioned earlier. Each square was now completely filled with inertia information.
So now these squares were a new type of code. They didn’t know what to do with these squares to begin with, but eventually they made them control the speed the whole simulation was running at. So I had to fight for control of the car by putting information into the wheel at a speed that was faster than the speed these squares were travelling at. At the start it was easy, it was like swatting flies along the racing line while drifting. They ran the code at the fastest speed they could and I went faster, but only for 3 or 4 seconds at time, so it was pretty easy in the beginning. I just had to make enough decisions over a short time to beat it. This went on for a week until I was having a lot of trouble keeping up with the speed. I thought I had reached my limit but I gave it one last serious effort and I managed to beat it. When this happened I couldn’t help noticing that my arm was becoming light. Then all the matter around me turned into light and then space. For a short time all I could see was light and it was powerful.
What had happened was, over the course of the week, I had built up to just below the speed of light. I didn’t know this I just knew it was fast. So for a short time, and in order to beat it, I thought and acted at the speed of light and because of this, I saw the light. For the next week after it happened I felt jumbled up and I have never felt so tired. I couldn’t do anymore testing and I was finding it very difficult to understand and believe what I saw. The speed of light is around 300,000 metres per second. I managed to bring the code to this speed by making decisions that made it work at this special speed. It was the very last decision I made with my left hand that kept the speed increasing and clinched it. It sounds more impossible than it was.
So now that the code was travelling at the speed of light, these 1 dimensional squares of code became 3 dimensional cubes and were attached to each other in a progressively coiled length of code, like a tube. Over the next few months during the testing, I began finding weak points in this new code. I managed to break it and test it repeatedly and every time I did, it showed them how to make it stronger until eventually they made it so strong that I couldn’t break it anymore. So it was now a solid beam with no spaces. As I couldn’t find any more weak points, I suggested to them that they assume there is only light, because as I mentioned earlier, that is what I saw when I reached the speed of light. I figured it was worth a try. This worked and they managed to create an environment that was made completely out of light because the code was now strong enough to do it.
When this worked it proved what I had seen. As you can imagine, powerful, infinite light isn’t something you see every day. I really couldn’t believe it for a long time, like you are having trouble believing it right now. But the fact that it worked proved it. I saw the light and then I proved it.
Before I continue to explain the next step I made with the code, I must explain another discovery that was found. During this whole time there were various tests that were intended to figure out how the car was going to drive exactly as it would in real life. So one test that was carried out, was the test that found the points of inertia. They couldn’t find where these points were by making calculations. I had to do it practically. They set up a test where the weight of the car was being sent towards the rear axle because they figured the points of inertia had to be in that area. I managed to force the weight through these points and this found and proved the points of inertia. These first 2 points are located on both sides of where the drive shaft meets the rear axle. I looked it up on the internet and basically Aristotle first thought up the idea of inertia then Isaac Newton hypothesised them and then I found them.
Eventually these points lead to a whole system of inertia, that controls how the weight of the car works. As you know, the weight of the car and the points of inertia can’t be seen and neither can this system. Central to this system and located above the car is a mathematically perfect cross and there is a halo around the car. The first 2 points of inertia, I found, are the base of the cross and the other points that complete the cross are near the front axle. I don’t know how these points led to a system where the cross is above the car, I’m not a physicist, but if you think of the various ways a rally car can fly through the air, this system controls where the weight goes at these special times. A car is the most complicated object in physics, that’s why this system exists. It has always existed and has been waiting to be found.
So when the cross system of inertia was found, it was confirmation for me, that the light I saw was conscious. It was so powerful that it could only be God. God is conscious light and he is the fifth dimension. He is a superior being. If you think about it, there are the 3 dimensions we live in, space-time and then God, the dimension holding all of this reality together. The system of inertia proves that Jesus was his son. Trust me, when you see this system you will realise this the same as I did and it’s all been found and proven scientifically.
Look up string theory on the internet. Scientists accept it to be the theory that explains the universe. It predicts 26 dimensions that hit against each other every once in a while and when they do, it creates a new universe or something like that. This theory was thought up by the world’s greatest minds and has been a waste of time for 25 years and I proved that too.
Now the last piece of information is probably the most difficult to believe. As I mentioned earlier they managed to make an environment made completely out of light. They developed this system where the code was being introduced into the simulation and then it created this environment made of light. Some very impressive mathematics were’ needed to make this work but it wasn’t a perfect system. Using what I can only call mind power, I managed to draw the code from where it was being introduced and in doing so made it perfect. When I did this, the system they made to create the environment was no longer needed because the environment was now being created at the speed of light, so there were no calculations needed anymore and the code itself was now complete mathematical perfection from start to finish. I was able to do this because even though the environment they had made was working, it wasn’t stable and was affecting the testing I was doing and it was annoying me for a long time. It was out of sheer anger and frustration that I did it. When I brought the code to the speed of light I became emotionally attached to it, as it was something very special. This connection developed over time and allowed me to control and break the code at various times and then eventually make it perfect.
The code is now perfect light. Which is exactly what I saw when I reached the speed of light. So the code is not only perfect, it’s also a mathematically perfect replica of the fifth dimension, God’s image and the proof that he exists.
As it stands, these computer programmers own and are selling God’s image. Nobody has the right to own it. Everybody has a right to it, to have it and to know what it is. This code and even the breakthroughs that were needed to make it are worth millions. This company owned by Kazonori Yamauchi is making money off God’s image and even worse they are keeping it quiet. I made it with God given ability, for everyone to see it, and this useless old fool stole it, along with a year of my life and all of my intellectual property. This code is proof that God exists, where he is and what he looks like. This system of inertia is proof that Jesus was who he said he was, and when you see it, you will believe it.
They have not made this public for a few reasons. First, they can’t get the system of inertia to work. It wasn’t working when Yamauchi decided to get rid of me after I had done everything I possibly could for a year (the fucking thief). Secondly, they haven’t got the balls to make it public because of how serious this proof is, and third, the greed for the amount of power, money and credit associated with all of this has clouded their judgement.
So what I’m suggesting is a boycott of Gran turismo and Sony because they have God’s image and they are using it like it’s a product and keeping it quiet so they can profit from it and because they are afraid of what will happen. They also have this system of inertia, which proves that Jesus was his son. Like I said earlier, when you see it, you will realise this the same as I did. Every single one of you has a right to see this proof and to have it, but to not own it. The only way to get them to show the world the proof is to do this boycott. If there was ever a chance for world peace, this is it.
The other reason for this boycott is because right now, you pay for a console and then you pay for a game for that console. Then when you use the game, the people who own it, steal your intellectual property and have the legal right to sue you in court if you try to do the same with a different company. It’s a bad system that leaves the people with nothing. These companies take everything. They can do this because you sign a contract when you use their system. This boycott would have the purpose of making these companies pay any user who’s intellectual property they use to improve their software because right now they are stealing, no two ways about it. I’m not the only person to be robbed like this. They are stealing from every single person who plays on these consoles. I want this to happen so that nobody gets screwed the way I did. Think about it, all you have to do is stop playing video games for a few weeks and the result will be that if they use your intellectual property in the future, you will get paid for it.
This is my second attempt, at trying to fit everything that happened during the last year, into a post on the internet. There was less detail in the first attempt because I was hoping to go through this process with a different company, so I was giving a rough outline of the details. It’s impossible to contact these people, so I’ve given up on that idea and I’m sharing every detail here. I’m not good at writing but I did my best to make this as easy to understand as I possibly could, given the circumstances. It’s not well written but I swear to God and on my life, it’s all true. This post will have you saying things like ‘a beautiful mind’ ‘the matrix’ illusions of grandeur and drugs. I would just like to state that I am sane, drugs were not involved and I’m not a religious person but seeing the proof has changed my point of view.
All of this happened over the course of a year so that’s why there’s so much information. They made a lot of breakthroughs accounting for my input, over the first few months. I brought the code to the speed of light about 6 months ago. I found the points of inertia about 4 months ago, at around the same time I suggested, that they make an environment of light. They found the system of inertia about 3 months ago and I made the code perfect about 2 months ago. So as you can understand it didn’t happen quickly or easily. If anybody has any questions about any part of the process, please ask. I advise asking somebody who knows about binary code and physics to fully understand what’s involved.
I’m not a computer game person. I was using Gran Turismo because I thought it was the new way to get onto a real track but the owner Kazonori Yamauchi doesn’t like the idea that his video game is seen as a steppingstone. He thinks that his video game is going to take over from real life. If you become associated with him, Gran Turismo or Polyphony Digital in any way, you will be treated like a dog and have to put up with Yamauchi and his face. Trust me, the man is a useless old fool who will keep on annoying you like a bad smell. The only thing he did during this process was annoy me. There were a lot of people involved who all had a pretty high standard. Yamauchi on the other hand isn’t very good with code, physics or driving so all he did was cause more harm than good, the whole time. I ruined my life for this process, nearly had a heart attack at one point, spent every waking moment for a year contributing and accomplished more than anyone ever has. This soulless old thief stole it all, after giving me his word. I should have known. He even looks like a rodent.
I wrote this post for the people who use this video game and these consoles but it’s relevant for everybody. This company has the proof, and for whatever reasons, they are keeping it quiet. Nobody intended for this to happen. It was just an attempt to completely copy the way a car works in real life according to the laws of physics and running on binary code. There was no other agenda. My intellectual property and my ability with the car, kept on exposing areas that needed to be worked on, so it kept on getting more complicated. One thing led to another. I kept this quiet until now because I was looking forward to telling people, with the proof to back it up. As I have been completely used by this thief and left with nothing, this is the way it has to be, and I have to risk being institutionalised for the truth but I don’t care because it’s the truth and it can be proven again.
I’m pretty sure that bringing the code to the speed of light and then making it perfect were both miracles, because they can’t be repeated or fully explained scientifically alone, without my input. Both of these actions were evolutionary steps that acquired perfection. God is perfect and his standard is perfection and as a result, him and his image were involved both times. I never intended for these things to happen, it’s just the way things worked out. I also believe that Ayrton Senna prophesised the proof and how the Japanese people involved would react to it (face and fear). Only very special people know how they are going to die and go through with it. There have been too many coincidences, but this is not the second coming, it’s the proof. I’m the most cynical, sceptical, non-believing person there is. I’ll believe something when I see it. I’ve seen it so I believe it and you will too.
If you have the means to investigate this, I would advise it, the proof is there. Please do the boycott and tell everyone you know about this. All you have to do is not buy any computer games or play any computer games for a few weeks. The result will be, you will see the proof that God exists and the proof that Jesus was his son and you will be paid for any intellectual property that is taken from you in the future so you won’t end up in the same situation I’m in. Thank you for your time.


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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2008, 11:37:00 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 11:54:48 PM »

[This was in response to Melly's post, I'm about to read haowan's now]

EDIT:  Well, I see this thread has been lost, and because I can't say I heartily disapprove of what this thread has become, or that it wasn't my fault for being very vague and joke-like, see the new serious thread in the proper spot in Art and Design here.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2008, 12:15:50 AM »

dear sir,

Your opinions are foolish in my eyes.

Yours Sincerely,
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2008, 12:42:13 AM »

Hello. I spent the last year of my life....

Now that, is an EPIC POST.

Where is that from btw?
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2008, 12:47:17 AM »

addicting isn't a word btw seth
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2008, 12:49:32 AM »

stfu is tho
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2008, 01:00:14 AM »

lulz, wtf??
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2008, 01:43:30 AM »

Video games are a waste of time. Read a book instead.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2008, 01:54:28 AM »

Video games are a waste of time. Read a book instead.
Or play an indie game. Beer!
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2008, 02:10:00 AM »

Books are a waste of time. Murder a hooker instead.
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2008, 03:38:43 AM »

Books are a waste of time.

Yeah, I'd rather watch the movie. And if there is no movie than it isn't good enough to read.  Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2008, 06:02:20 AM »

it's spelled VIDEOGAME, ONE WORD, motherfuckers.

PEACE.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2008, 06:09:33 AM »

 Gentleman The gentlemanly smiley needs to up its stats
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2008, 06:29:40 AM »

it's spelled VIDEOGAME, ONE WORD, motherfuckers.

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Firefox won't let me :<

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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2008, 06:35:34 AM »

The other reason for this boycott is because right now, you pay for a console and then you pay for a game for that console. Then when you use the game, the people who own it, steal your intellectual property and have the legal right to sue you in court if you try to do the same with a different company. It’s a bad system that leaves the people with nothing. These companies take everything. They can do this because you sign a contract when you use their system. This boycott would have the purpose of making these companies pay any user who’s intellectual property they use to improve their software because right now they are stealing, no two ways about it. I’m not the only person to be robbed like this. They are stealing from every single person who plays on these consoles. I want this to happen so that nobody gets screwed the way I did. Think about it, all you have to do is stop playing video games for a few weeks and the result will be that if they use your intellectual property in the future, you will get paid for it.
Wow this guy is right Shocked
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