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« Reply #820 on: July 10, 2012, 12:02:37 AM » |
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Huh. I liked the previous one better (wonder why, heh.), but that seems to make more sense with moonman's flat style.
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rek
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« Reply #821 on: July 10, 2012, 06:32:56 AM » |
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Update: Did a few adjustments to the lighting.
MUCH better! All the shading was making everything so busy and dark.
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eigenbom
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« Reply #822 on: July 10, 2012, 07:52:43 PM » |
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« Reply #823 on: July 10, 2012, 08:25:48 PM » |
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Nice lighting. What was the reason for simplifying the shadows? It looks like there are less steps to pure darkness. Lighting is definitely a tricky beast. Good luck with it!
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eigenbom
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« Reply #824 on: July 10, 2012, 08:35:26 PM » |
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I didn't like having multiple parallel bands of shading, it made it look a bit 3d I guess. And I'm trying, trying to adhere to a minimalist aesthetic, whether I'm succeeding or not, I don't know .. :| And thx!
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« Reply #825 on: July 10, 2012, 09:11:05 PM » |
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Oh, i like to look of that game. Somehow the graphic style reminds me of the old game Below the Root. Can't wait to try it.
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happymonster
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« Reply #826 on: July 10, 2012, 11:15:31 PM » |
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I think I prefer it without the lighting.
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eyeliner
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« Reply #827 on: July 11, 2012, 01:44:39 AM » |
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Is that lighting of a kind of "fog of war"? If it is a "fog of war", you'd better make that possible to remove entirely by exploring. I have an OCD that makes me want to remove every single bit of black spots from the map. I hate it when I can't.
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eigenbom
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« Reply #828 on: July 11, 2012, 02:08:23 AM » |
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Is that lighting of a kind of "fog of war"? If it is a "fog of war", you'd better make that possible to remove entirely by exploring. It's just lighting at the moment, it's not based on what is visible, but rather the shortest distance of a block to an empty 'light' block. I have an OCD that makes me want to remove every single bit of black spots from the map. I hate it when I can't.
I know what you mean. @happymonster, I prefer no lighting when moonman is above ground, and lighting when he is below ground. But I can't resolve this inconsistency.
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Belimoth
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« Reply #829 on: July 11, 2012, 02:24:30 AM » |
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Player-placed blocks are always lit? Some scenarios have lighting and some don't? Differentiate between natural and artificial light to seperate above- and below-ground regions?
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rek
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« Reply #830 on: July 11, 2012, 06:45:30 AM » |
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Yeh I'm really struggling with the lighting, here's some more pics. There's always some situations where the lighting looks a bit funny, but I think I'll finish this up next week and then move on to more interesting world generation, adding block types, etc. I can always come back to it later. That looks pretty hinky, but fixable. Maybe slightly randomize (by a block or two) how deep light penetrates, and don't draw shadows for areas less than X blocks wide... Anyway, you'll find a solution.
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« Reply #831 on: July 11, 2012, 01:42:48 PM » |
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I think the more simplified lighting looks best for what you've shown but I might also be with happymonster on this one in that I like it aswell without the lighting.
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GCshepard
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« Reply #832 on: July 12, 2012, 02:18:35 PM » |
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I'd say try having the lighting levels decrease twice as fast on the foreground. That would get rid of the problem that I see most in the castle screenshot.
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eigenbom
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« Reply #833 on: July 12, 2012, 05:23:58 PM » |
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@belimoth, some good ideas, thx!
the for the comments guys, the image I showed is probably one of the worser case scenarios, @rek randomising the energy attenuation is a good idea, and would break up the straight lines at least.
@gcshepard, doing that would produce a similar result for castles with thinner walls.
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happymonster
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« Reply #834 on: July 13, 2012, 02:58:08 PM » |
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For the lighting, I'd say it works better with the inter-block shading rather than the whole block approach. It looks a tricky problem though..
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« Reply #835 on: July 13, 2012, 11:04:57 PM » |
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Your terrain has diagonals, have you considered that your shadows might need them too?
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eigenbom
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« Reply #836 on: July 15, 2012, 06:40:07 PM » |
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@sergio - yeh i have! Update: playing with some different 16x16 block situations to look at the lighting..
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Thecoolestnerdguy
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« Reply #837 on: July 17, 2012, 01:04:20 PM » |
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Very nice game, you're developing something solid here. I can't wait to put my hands on it ( launch an alpha version!). I vote in: - Smart NPCs (able to build, fight, etc..) - Castles/Dungeons And HOUSELEGSSSSSS The ilumination is nice for me, just need some bugfixes, don't worry to much about that. And the art it's great, so minimalist, chunky, blocky, retro.(I say that because I don't have an artist vision to say something it's wrong with your art). I hope it will feature awesome chiptune music. Also, from now I will follow your amazing devlog!
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eyeliner
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« Reply #838 on: July 17, 2012, 02:35:55 PM » |
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Will we hear the nature?
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eigenbom
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« Reply #839 on: July 17, 2012, 02:42:41 PM » |
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@thecoolestnerdguy, i'm working on an alpha atm, i'm glad you like the look of the game so far @eyeliner You mean the birds and the bees? Actually I really look forward to bringing the world alive with sound, but haven't really thought about sound yet.
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