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[Lukas]

Dudes...

Whoever fucks with Fallout fucking fucks with me, I'm not fucking right now.

HOW CARE AOUT TEH GRAPHICS
HOW CARE AOUT TEH INTERFACE
HOW CARE AOUT TEH OUTDATED GAME DESIGN

Fallout is just fucking great. Fallout 2 is better actually but Fallout is THE SHIT.

Everybody is talking total bullshit like "GTA IV" inventing the social criticism and stuff... all WRONG. Fallout invented it with Nuke-a-Cola, the Vault commercials and basically everything in the world.
It makes most things wrong games should do right (see Fishes point, for example) but nails everything RPGs have to do right (and hardly do.)

You can really decide what you want to do and that doesn't happen by klicking [a] or [b but by acting that way.
I remember some quest in Fallout 2 in which you have to solve a problem for the "high-tech" but cold and snobby Vault City Leader. You have to follow the river upwards until you reach a town inhabited by "ghouls". (Mutants which didn't find a good vault as humans and got all the radiation right into the face)
Those ghouls live near an atomic reactor which keeps them "alive". Still, the reactor contaminates the river so you are told to destroy the reactor. But the ghouls are very friendly and ask you kindly not to destroy the reactor. (that's lulz already. no brainless zombies over here!)
So you have multiple possibilities:
a.) fuck the damn Vault City Leader and steal the stuff you need. (or get it elsewhere)
b.) don't care about the ghouls: sneak into the reactor, solve some puzzles (which do fit into the game) and destroy the reactor. you'd have to fight some ghouls that way.
c.) sneak into some warehouse near Vault City and steal (or buy) some filter a ghoul told you about.

Well... I tried out every possibility and fuck me... b.) breaks you heart, really.


I guess you could hate Fallout for the same reasons you'd hate Dwarf Fortress for (different game of course but there are similarities concerning the needed skills and interests to play). But on the other hand... there are just as many reasons to love Fallout as you could imagine for DF.


BaronCid
And by the way. Fuck, where is Fez. And where is Braid? Oh, and Fez. Fez is missing aswell.

[Zaphos]

Everybody is talking total bullshit like "GTA IV" inventing the social criticism and stuff... all WRONG. Fallout invented it

...  :D

[imaginationac]

For anyone with a GameTap subscription, Fallout is now available. (and supposedly will become "free"...eventually).

I don't have any of the next gen consoles, so what I'm looking forward to the most doesn't really matter. Animal Crossing: City Folk is why I really want a Wii, Fallout 3, Too Human, & Sacred 2: Fallen Angel is why I want a 360, and LittleBigPlanet and KillZone 2 is why I want a PS3.

Anyway enough about E3. Anyone catch anything interesting out of Comic-Con?

[Mitchard]

Or the game randomly dicks you over and decides to teleport you into a room full of hostiles/make the previously non hostile NPC's surrounding you randomly hostile with little to no explanation.

Huh? What are you talking about?

I had a bunch of situations where the game has dicked over my save file by teleporting me or putting me into a situation in which I had no hope of escaping.

The previously non hostile raiders suddenly  turning on me because I look like the leaders dead father and being teleported into the bedroom of a mob bosses wife and being unable to leave without confronting an entire building of enemies stood out in particular.

[Cheater‽]

Or the game randomly dicks you over and decides to teleport you into a room full of hostiles/make the previously non hostile NPC's surrounding you randomly hostile with little to no explanation.

Huh? What are you talking about?

The previously non hostile raiders suddenly  turning on me because I look like the leaders dead father

Well, that is explained. A little late, when everyone has already turned on you, but explained. Right?

being teleported into the bedroom of a mob bosses wife and being unable to leave without confronting an entire building of enemies stood out in particular.

That's Fallout 2! And yes, I hated that part. Mostly because my NPC got in the way of my bullets. And the clusterfuckfight in the first floor.

[joshg]

HOW CARE AOUT TEH INTERFACE?
I remember enjoying fallout because it was like a boardgame, it made your imagination work more than your video card. The bad interface might actually have contributed positively to that.

I just said it was clunky, I didn't say it was bad.  Some of us like clunky.

And for those with short attention span, please note I was already rambling earlier about how awesome Fallout is.  Just because I acknowledge it's not perfect doesn't change the fact that I think it's awesome and everyone who is anyone should play it and love it.


p.s. Also it has the frickin' best game manual EVER. 

[Lucaz]

Fallout 2 is one of my favorite games ever, and I don't even like much RPGs. I just love the huge amount of options and possibilities for roleplaying, and how it let's you play with any character, even one without any fighting skills. I mean, in what other game you can become a porn actor/gangster, and maybe drug addict box champion? Yeah, sometimes the interface was clunky, and the inventory sucked, and it was really buggy, but... wathever.

[Cheater‽]

I mean, in what other game you can become a porn actor/gangster, and maybe drug addict box champion?

I played a MUSH where you could do that, while also being able to pimp out your wife for cash, kill children, become a member of the government and serve the Gods.

Yeah, it was pretty cool.

[muku]

I don't know if it's been posted before, but there's a neat "report" on the E3 trailer park on Zero Punctuation:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/157-The-E3-Trailer-Park

[kyn]

I never miss a zero punctuation
Despite disagreeing with Yahtzee on so many levels, he sure is a great comedian

[Alevice]

I mean, in what other game you can become a porn actor/gangster, and maybe drug addict box champion?

I played a MUSH where you could do that, while also being able to pimp out your wife for cash, kill children, become a member of the government and serve the Gods.

Yeah, it was pretty cool.

You can do all that on FO2 too. Well, except serving the Gods, but thats what Arcanum is for.

[Cheater‽]

I mean, in what other game you can become a porn actor/gangster, and maybe drug addict box champion?

I played a MUSH where you could do that, while also being able to pimp out your wife for cash, kill children, become a member of the government and serve the Gods.

Yeah, it was pretty cool.

You can do all that on FO2 too. Well, except serving the Gods, but thats what Arcanum is for.

This has player-run governments though  .

_{Yes, that is the proper smiley}