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« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2012, 08:33:25 PM » |
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In that case I respect Aaron Diaz's efforts to redesign the characters of the DC universe for boring people.
EDIT: I guess my beef is with content not form. He goes 'this is Superman' and puts a picture up and then I go 'that's dumb'. But really it's a completely different character that he's come up with that's very similar to Superman but is in fact not Superman.
Is Diaz communicating what he wants? Yeah. He's in control of what comes across in his designs, I just don't think he's in control of his own influences regarding his ideas: why does cyborg look like Moss from the IT crowd other than 'I like Moss from the IT crowd?' Why is Parasite an old granny? It's too busy trying to get some kind of 'neat angle' on the characters that it doesn't really get any angle.
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« Reply #101 on: January 04, 2012, 08:48:23 PM » |
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EVERYTHING in this. Such a great, sadly forgotten film:
The Theif and the Cobbler.
Woa. Super cool. WOW GODDAMN that is some smooth animation |
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« Reply #102 on: January 04, 2012, 08:56:21 PM » |
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Diaz seems to be approaching each character like 'the pop-cultural understanding of this character doesn't matter', which is coming at it the wrong way methinks. If this was intended as a reaction to the DC comics stuff (i.e. appealing to new readers), surely he'd want to stress their most iconic aspects?
This is why I don't think you should ever redesign Superman's costume drastically - everyone knows it! They recognise it and understand what it means. People still want to see Superman/ Batman etc. they just don't want to read them in comics. Decline in comic readership can be chalked up at least in part to movies doing bam biff pow superhero action in a more stimulating fashion (and often more concisely).
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« Reply #103 on: January 04, 2012, 09:12:17 PM » |
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Or maybe because they failed to create mass appeal, manga succeed in a way comics never had, and they have even more obscure universe. Movies takes super heroes pretty much after they have been refine and rarely goes beyond the "refine origin" tales, when they have been streamlined and had became iconic enough (ie close enough to the basic archetypal concept). Batman became more than batman and a tales of vigilantism, spiderman became a tales of responsibility and power, Superman became a tales of protection and hope.
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« Reply #104 on: January 04, 2012, 09:26:43 PM » |
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All true. I think the mass appeal thing has only 'emerged' as a problem recently tho. It's a long-term thing that comic companies couldn't see past their own noses to comprehend when they could have fixed it. They were making enough money off superheroes so why bother?
The thing I worry about is that there's a thriving community of comics artists right now who are creating fantastic, non-superhero work that's probably going to be limited by the image of comics as 'inconsequential', 'for children' etc. that these companies created.
Message: people need to go read Octopus Pie.
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« Reply #105 on: January 04, 2012, 09:48:53 PM » |
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EVERYTHING in this. Such a great, sadly forgotten film:
The Theif and the Cobbler.
About time somebody posted this. I thought you guys forgot about it. |
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« Reply #106 on: January 04, 2012, 11:45:49 PM » |
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I just thought of a design I really, really, liked. Sophitias alternate costume in Soul Calibur 3. Luckily I found an image with both the main and the alternate.  The one on the left is the main costume and the one on the right is the alternate. Which one makes more sense? I dunno 'bout you, but the right one imo. For one thing, it actually looks like an outfit that makes sense. It's more dignified than skimpy. Not only is the outfit more sensible, even the hair makes more sense being tied up in a bun(s?). Of course they kept the temple-girl main outfit in 4, and for the alternate...  ... uh. Well, it's armor. Ugly, stupid looking armor...  Sophitias evolution is kind of indicative of the entire series when it comes to character design.  Digging around for this I found a concept/promotional (dunno which) piece for one of the bonus characters.  I actually kind of like that one. |
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« Reply #107 on: January 05, 2012, 12:10:44 AM » |
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about the evolution of Sophitia, it seems she became less warrior and more of a hooker. it's kinda weird that the design of female warrior is getting less and less clothing. are they lazy or something?
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« Reply #108 on: January 05, 2012, 04:14:56 AM » |
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Nah, they just prioritize weirdly. Actually, I took a look at Ivy. Her SCV look is actually much better than her SCIV one.  The IV costume was mostly straps, but the V one have a bit more sensible elements to it (don't really get why only three of her left fingers have armor, but meh). Not as insane as IV, but still Ivy. (Now if only they'd give her back her SC2 gameplay too  ) |
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« Reply #109 on: January 05, 2012, 08:13:43 AM » |
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Sophitia's sword also got progressively smaller.
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« Reply #110 on: January 05, 2012, 05:37:28 PM » |
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« Reply #111 on: January 05, 2012, 07:17:51 PM » |
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what did it say? i only able to read kanji and i know it's talking about boob.
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« Reply #112 on: January 05, 2012, 07:38:46 PM » |
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- What looks like a DC Comics do-over along with a lecture on why Joe Gribbin hates it -
Am I the only one who actually likes this new Batman? |
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« Reply #113 on: January 05, 2012, 08:21:06 PM » |
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what did it say? i only able to read kanji and i know it's talking about boob.
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« Reply #114 on: January 05, 2012, 08:30:01 PM » |
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what did it say? i only able to read kanji and i know it's talking about boob.
My guess: "Soul Caliber is the breast fighting game." TIGS really needs a "thank post" feature |
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« Reply #115 on: January 05, 2012, 08:31:36 PM » |
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- What looks like a DC Comics do-over along with a lecture on why Joe Gribbin hates it -
Am I the only one who actually likes this new Batman? The one I posted? I liked it, s'why I posted it. |
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« Reply #116 on: January 05, 2012, 09:06:59 PM » |
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what did it say? i only able to read kanji and i know it's talking about boob.
My guess: "Soul Caliber is the breast feeding game." Fixed  |
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« Reply #117 on: January 05, 2012, 10:37:57 PM » |
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- What looks like a DC Comics do-over along with a lecture on why Joe Gribbin hates it -
Am I the only one who actually likes this new Batman? The one I posted? I liked it, s'why I posted it. I like 'em too. Especially the Superman one, made more interested in that character than I'd ever been before. |
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« Reply #118 on: January 05, 2012, 11:22:17 PM » |
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"Soul Caliber: tit's not your average fighting game."
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« Reply #119 on: January 06, 2012, 01:37:59 AM » |
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I like 'em too. Especially the Superman one, made more interested in that character than I'd ever been before.
I didn't say that one was good.Read All Star Superman or Whatever Happened to the Man of Tommorow or Red Son. Good Superman stories. |
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