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« Reply #180 on: February 08, 2012, 06:49:58 pm »

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« Reply #181 on: February 08, 2012, 07:12:44 pm »

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the best character designer is kazuma kaneko





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« Reply #182 on: February 08, 2012, 07:24:14 pm »

My pants just got tighter.
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« Reply #183 on: February 08, 2012, 07:25:51 pm »

Yes.
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« Reply #184 on: February 08, 2012, 07:28:37 pm »

That guy has the best leopard dude:
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« Reply #185 on: February 08, 2012, 07:50:58 pm »

why are leopard doods so popular


oh look, look over there mom, it's a leopard dood

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« Reply #186 on: February 08, 2012, 08:52:55 pm »

Protip: Ose was the little-known fourth Cheetahman.

Every character design Kazuma Kaneko touches turns to gold, so yeah. Wizard
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« Reply #187 on: February 08, 2012, 10:07:11 pm »

I really like Georg Baselitz's character designs.





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« Reply #188 on: February 09, 2012, 01:59:15 am »

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the best character designer is kazuma kaneko

I gotta get an art book!
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« Reply #189 on: February 09, 2012, 02:43:28 am »

Once again, everyone missing the point.
It's not about story. It's about placing stuff in their setting.
Thanks for explaining that Blanka is a wild beastman. I seriously couldn't see that for myself just by looking at him.
I'm saying that a lot of fighting game characters leave a lot of stuff open to interpretation, for everyone to interpret differently. That isn't strong character design.
The iterations that Vega went through are not standard practice. Final result is mix of the first iterations, which isn't how things are done if you want something to stand out.
Seems to me that the team didn't know what to include, and just drew a bunch of "cool looking dudes" and then settled on something. To me it seems like a descision that was made because of time constraints.
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« Reply #190 on: February 09, 2012, 04:04:37 am »

the best character designer is kazuma kaneko

The Persona series has a ton of great, sleek design.



^this one's sitting on a throne made up of young girls, in case you didn't notice



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« Reply #191 on: February 09, 2012, 07:00:47 am »

Once again, everyone missing the point.
It's not about story. It's about placing stuff in their setting.
Thanks for explaining that Blanka is a wild beastman. I seriously couldn't see that for myself just by looking at him.
I'm saying that a lot of fighting game characters leave a lot of stuff open to interpretation, for everyone to interpret differently. That isn't strong character design.
The iterations that Vega went through are not standard practice. Final result is mix of the first iterations, which isn't how things are done if you want something to stand out.
Seems to me that the team didn't know what to include, and just drew a bunch of "cool looking dudes" and then settled on something. To me it seems like a descision that was made because of time constraints.

ohhh so if a character can be interpreted differently by different people its a bad design. I see. except my point still stands: you can't always explain a character's entire backstory with just their design, especially when there's fantastical elements involved. nobody's going to figure out why somebody is a leopardman just by fucking looking at him, thats what terrible plots and cutscenes are for. variety is sometimes more important than clarity.


also hell yes persona has the best designs ever
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« Reply #192 on: February 09, 2012, 09:50:18 am »

I don't know if BOF:DQ has been mentioned but I always think back to the character designs from it:
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« Reply #193 on: February 09, 2012, 12:32:45 pm »

Once again, everyone missing the point.
I bet.
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It's not about story. It's about placing stuff in their setting.
it's not about story, see... its about story!
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Thanks for explaining that Blanka is a wild beastman. I seriously couldn't see that for myself just by looking at him.
I'm saying that a lot of fighting game characters leave a lot of stuff open to interpretation, for everyone to interpret differently. That isn't strong character design.
These designs actually go out of their way to answer the most important questions for you as soon as possible. In Dhalsim's case, you can instantly tell his archetype, his fighting style and even some points about ingame playstyle: he won't fight like normal people and physical strenght isn't his forte. These are the most important questions for a fighting game, and the first ones that come to mind when you see a character select screen for the first time. Any more than this and every character would have to come with their autobiographies tattoed on their faces so you can know everything about his past at first glance.

The funny thing is how fighting games typically go completely out of their way to tell you more small details about their characters even if you are totally uninterested in Story Modes or game manuals. Usually every character has their own taunts, victory poses and winquotes, intros, stages, themes, signature moves and there are always one or two moves where the character practically takes a break from fighting just to strike a pose and show you how evil/cool/serious he is(e.g: every ultra animation in sf4).

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The iterations that Vega went through are not standard practice. Final result is mix of the first iterations, which isn't how things are done if you want something to stand out.
Seems to me that the team didn't know what to include, and just drew a bunch of "cool looking dudes" and then settled on something. To me it seems like a descision that was made because of time constraints.
It seems like this to you but you don't know shit because that text on wikipedia is ridiculously vague and undetailed. ALL we know is 1) he had many iterations and 2) these iterations contributed to the final version.
Unless you believe "standard practice" means a character will come out perfect the very first time you sketch him on paper, then yes, this is standard practice.
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« Reply #194 on: February 12, 2012, 03:51:29 pm »

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« Reply #195 on: February 12, 2012, 04:02:30 pm »

Wow his suit is incredibly worn down. ha

that's awesome.
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« Reply #196 on: February 12, 2012, 04:04:43 pm »







I always liked Canti from FLCL, his weight really seems to be well distributed, and he's very versatile with his different costumes and attires.
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« Reply #197 on: February 12, 2012, 04:08:36 pm »

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the best character designer is kazuma kaneko

I gotta get an art book!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=KAZUMA+KANEKO+ILLUSTRATION+WORKS+II+ART+BOOK+Japan+2

good luck, they're expensive even used. apparently i've wanted to buy them since like 2002 since when i searched google for his name + art book i found one of my old lj entries from 2002 saying i wanted it
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« Reply #199 on: February 13, 2012, 06:25:09 am »

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=KAZUMA+KANEKO+ILLUSTRATION+WORKS+II+ART+BOOK+Japan+2

good luck, they're expensive even used. apparently i've wanted to buy them since like 2002 since when i searched google for his name + art book i found one of my old lj entries from 2002 saying i wanted it

Thanks! I don't use eBay, but if I find a way to get it some other way, I'll grab a second copy and send it to you. Smiley
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