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[William Broom]

I still think grapple would work well as an S ^. Quite a few characters seem to have 'spinning-flying' recovery moves, so it would be nice to see Turner mix it up a bit.

[Soulliard]

Maybe a Captain Falcon-style jump-and-grab attack?

[medieval]

Captain Falcon-style would work quite well. Throws his opponent down if he gets him

[shig]

Throwing the opponents downwards would be very hard to recover. Or absurldy comboable.

[Soulliard]

Anything can be balanced.

[William Broom]

I think shig has a good point, but it might be offset somewhat by the fact that Turner needs to be below the enemy in order to hit them.

[William Broom]

Also:

>A - Power Kick - A powerful roundhouse kick that sends the foe twirling away, deprived of control until he/she hits the ground.
(This does not change the style of the attack, but it does make it more unique. This was suggested in an earlier move list, and I think it's worth keeping)

Are you sure about this? I know it's kind of authentic to Lugaru, but it would be extremely powerful. All you have to do is kick them off the edge for an instant kill. How about instead, it just has unusually high knockback?

[Soulliard]

It should either have low knockback with twirling or high knockback without.

[William Broom]

Turner is now finished:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=902f1085442c23cad2db6fb9a8902bda

The only issue I know about right now involves Turner's counterattack. The knockback it deals is based on the power of the countered attack, but some attacks, such as Flipper Kick or GK's uppercut, seem to result in unreasonably high knockback. You can see this clearly by having Turner counter GK's uppercut, followed by his Stick Smash. Both attacks deal the same damage, but the uppercut sends GK flying significantly further.

Oh, and btw, the counter has negative knockback. I thought it would be like Turner throwing them over his shoulder or something. It can be changed into positive knockback depending on how it plays and what the spriters want to do with it.

[Soulliard]

That was fast! I still haven't entirely implemented the Dwarf.

I can't wait to check it out tomorrow.

[Soulliard]

Chutup, could you please use a file host other than Mediafire? It's filled with ads, and half the time it doesn't work anyways (like now). Even with its recent problems (which seem to have been fixed), willhostforfood.com is a better host.

[William Broom]

Ok, sure  I sent it to you by email. If anyone else wants to try him out I also re-uploaded:
http://willhostforfood.com/files3/1848382/brawl56_turner.gmk
I'm guessing it won't work unless you put it in your 'IB10' or 'IB10source' folder so it can get at the necessary assets.

[medieval]

I played it, and here's my suggestions:

- Death from Above (falling kick, vA) takes far too short. Same goes for the leg cannon.
- I could use the staff swing (^A) in the air forever without having to get to the ground.

[William Broom]

Ok, I can probably fix those things and re-upload before Nightshade has time to integrate him.

[Rostiger]

So, I need GM Pro to test these, right?

[William Broom]

Yeah, but I can upload a compiled version.
http://willhostforfood.com/files3/4092451/brawl56_turner.exe
Still needs to be in the IB10 folder.

[Rostiger]

Ah great thanks! I played him a little, but it's always hard to judge without any opponents. He feels quite ok, but I think he could run a little faster, since I imagine him to be a very agile character. Also the walljump doesn't seem to work with him.
The moves are mostly short ranged but quite powerful, which is ok I think, but the knockback is huge on most of them and feels a little overdrived.

But I really would need to test him with another player to get a better judgement.

[Soulliard]

Chutup- Don't worry about changing Turner. I'm going to try to get some friends together to test it today, so I'm integrating him this morning.

Hopefully, I'll have a relatively balanced build out this evening.

[Soulliard]

I uploaded a new version today that includes Turner. Chutup, I've got to thank you for programming him and the Dwarf. Their quality is excellent, and it saves me tons of time to not have to figure out how to program attacks like Catapult, Tantrum, and Counter.
<--Creepy 3-handed thumbs up.

Like the Dwarf, I've made very few changes- most were just adjusting values like timing and knockback.
-I increased his speed, jumps and weight. As a rabbit, he's pretty mobile, even if his attacks are a little slow, and he's definitely larger than Quote and Naija- his sprite's just bunched up. Currently, Turner is the fastest runner and best ground-jumper (though Nikujin and Quote can surpass his jumping with double jumps and specials).
-I added a little hop to the roundhouse kick.
-Staff Slam wasn't looking very usable, so I replaced it with a Staff Spin, so he can attack enemies behind him.
-If Rabbit Kick hits, you jump off the opponent.
-I added a cool-down time to the daggers.
-His counter can be executed faster. I'm pretty sure I squashed any remaining bugs, but let me know if you find any. Big thanks go out to Chutup here; I was having difficulty coming up with a way to get Counter to work without adding code to other objects.

[Rory]

For Staff Slam you could have something like: he holds it behind him (like a back-scratcher) while charging and then when he swings have two attack areas, one behind that knocks enemies upwards and one in front that slams them downwards (which would be funny against recovering opponents).