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« Reply #680 on: August 31, 2012, 12:08:12 PM » |
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Personally I think hardware on this console will get old pretty fast, like in a year or so. It's not Xbox or PS for which console devs hack in hardware that will be fresh for years to come.
That makes it not a best platform to develop next-gen/fat titles for, but for mini/medium-games it might be the best choice out there, no doubt.
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« Reply #682 on: September 01, 2012, 03:03:39 AM » |
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^ You armed like an octopus?
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« Reply #684 on: September 01, 2012, 04:06:11 AM » |
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Personally I think hardware on this console will get old pretty fast, like in a year or so. It's not Xbox or PS for which console devs hack in hardware that will be fresh for years to come.
I agree, even Android will fall, and I will not be surprised if it happens soon. Most of the mobiles have a short life-time. We are in an era of technological transition, I'd rather bet on a desktop computer, which is more stable, than to bet on a technology that may become obsolete at anytime.
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Falmil
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« Reply #685 on: September 02, 2012, 08:34:08 PM » |
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I'm not sure how it could get "old". Considering it is hardware for mobile systems, power was already a lower priority. It is already "old" on release, if you want to compare it to console and desktop systems. I'm not sure what is meant by console devs hacking in hardware. They use higher end hardware that's still quickly overtaken by what PCs have access to. The idea of hardware going "bad" is a ridiculous concept now. I have a 5-10 year old used laptop I got for $50 and use for watching videos and whatever. I'm not doing heavy graphical rendering with my everyday tasks on my laptop, and not every game has or needs to use the power of high end hardware.
I can't see Android going anywhere (unless Apple kills it with their endless litigation). It's an open source OS. Even if it did die, the system would get remixed into something else.
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« Reply #686 on: September 03, 2012, 06:13:25 PM » |
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Personally I think hardware on this console will get old pretty fast, like in a year or so. It's not Xbox or PS for which console devs hack in hardware that will be fresh for years to come.
I agree, even Android will fall, and I will not be surprised if it happens soon. Most of the mobiles have a short life-time. We are in an era of technological transition, I'd rather bet on a desktop computer, which is more stable, than to bet on a technology that may become obsolete at anytime. How is Android any more likely to "fall" than your desktop OS?
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« Reply #687 on: September 03, 2012, 07:08:48 PM » |
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there can only be one octopus you, me, coral reef 4:00 pm ur dead
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« Reply #688 on: September 04, 2012, 04:50:52 AM » |
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Personally I think hardware on this console will get old pretty fast, like in a year or so. It's not Xbox or PS for which console devs hack in hardware that will be fresh for years to come.
I agree, even Android will fall, and I will not be surprised if it happens soon. Most of the mobiles have a short life-time. We are in an era of technological transition, I'd rather bet on a desktop computer, which is more stable, than to bet on a technology that may become obsolete at anytime. How is Android any more likely to "fall" than your desktop OS? The hardware architecture of a mobile changes faster than the architecture changes of a desktop. And the OS will need to be drastically changed or being replaced. From this to this was a long step. And from this to this will be another long step.
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Falmil
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« Reply #689 on: September 04, 2012, 12:15:06 PM » |
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How are either of those considered to be long steps software-wise (assuming the second one isn't a smartphone)? I don't think the smartphone is going away anytime soon. Now that phones are multipurpose computers, their OSs share a lot more in common with desktops OSs. I don't even know what that 4th image is. It just looks like a clear phone. Why would it need different software?
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« Reply #690 on: September 04, 2012, 02:58:33 PM » |
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Indeed, android (much like its dad linux) is multipurpose and functional enough that it can continue to go forward as phone tech changes and it will be able to adapt to new problems. It will need to be upgraded of course, but I don't see what could be coming that it couldn't handle.
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« Reply #691 on: September 04, 2012, 03:25:28 PM » |
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I doubt smartphones are going to take the next evolutionary step anytime soon, if at all. They will only get more powerfull, eventually.
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« Reply #692 on: September 04, 2012, 07:45:48 PM » |
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How are either of those considered to be long steps software-wise (assuming the second one isn't a smartphone)? I don't think the smartphone is going away anytime soon. Now that phones are multipurpose computers, their OSs share a lot more in common with desktops OSs. I don't even know what that 4th image is. It just looks like a clear phone. Why would it need different software?
Indeed, android (much like its dad linux) is multipurpose and functional enough that it can continue to go forward as phone tech changes and it will be able to adapt to new problems. It will need to be upgraded of course, but I don't see what could be coming that it couldn't handle.
I'm a Linux user, I know that Linux is a long-life term OS. But the fact that Android is handled by an Unix system does not mean that it will live for so long like Linux. I agree that it may be still called Android after an upgrade, but it will not be the same, just a new system with the same name. A new and entirely different architecture will need a new system to control it. It is like try to use a computer with 16Gb of RAM memory with Windows 98 installed, you will not have access to the 16Gb RAM. *The 4th image is a glass-like device.
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« Reply #693 on: September 04, 2012, 08:52:41 PM » |
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Well yes, there will have to be changes in order to keep up with hardware, much like what has already happened. Android is on version 4.1 by now, and it has evolved feature wise yet managed to maintain a reasonable amount of backwards compatibility between devices thus far. I don't see why that would stop anytime as memory increases (as it is sure too). I see what you are saying in that there is and will always be a need for the software to change to meet the hardware changing, but I think in Android and iOS we finally have mobile OS' that will scale for the future without becoming utterly useless. This is all just my opinion though, its not like I have never been wrong before
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Falmil
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« Reply #694 on: September 04, 2012, 09:10:29 PM » |
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I agree that it may be still called Android after an upgrade, but it will not be the same, just a new system with the same name. A new and entirely different architecture will need a new system to control it. It is like try to use a computer with 16Gb of RAM memory with Windows 98 installed, you will not have access to the 16Gb RAM.
I am not sure what you are saying here. No OS is the "same" after an upgrade or update, considering the code changes from one version to another. I'm not sure what scale you are talking about or how you are defining "same". Linux runs on different processor architectures, except they are still all Linux because an OS is at a logically higher level than the hardware it runs on, so architectural changes do not matter much. The OS doesn't need to be completely re-written, unless we are talking about a completely different model of computing than used today. What architecture are you talking about? You wouldn't be able to use 16GB of RAM on Windows 98 because of hardware issues (not software ones) or because Microsoft simply capped the RAM usage at that level (doesn't need to have the entire system rewritten). As for the glass like phone, its just a computer rendering. There is no indication that it would work differently than any other computer device. Unless the thing didn't use circuits or something, I don't see how it is different.
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Ouren
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« Reply #695 on: October 04, 2012, 11:16:20 PM » |
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we're still talking about this?
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« Reply #696 on: October 05, 2012, 03:09:26 AM » |
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he said, bumping a thread with no posts for a month.
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« Reply #697 on: October 05, 2012, 04:48:51 AM » |
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Have there been any news about it lately?
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« Reply #698 on: October 05, 2012, 08:49:02 AM » |
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Not much. They have a blog on their site, and their last post was 9/28, talking about getting former IGN president Roy Bahat to be chairman of the board. Also, they hired a couple of other game-related people. Nothing about development of the actual system / shipping / stuff like that. P.S. J-Snake, what's with the massive blank space beneath your post?
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« Reply #699 on: October 05, 2012, 01:37:47 PM » |
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I will just see if something happens. At least there is the ps-vita to port some stuff in the meanwhile, at least that is what I read at the moment. Shouldn't be too much work regarding I have previously worked with xna.
p.s. blank space just happened
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