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William Broom
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« on: September 13, 2008, 04:39:25 AM »

This is a thread to catalogue the various games that need their creators to give us permission to use their characters/stages/etc. I thought it was necessary because the permission-seeking has seemed a little disorganized. If I made any mistakes or left stuff out then just say so.

Permission Granted
Naija/Sun Temple/Sea Loaf/Sea Cake/Spicy Roll/Hot Soup/Bomb/Cactus Seed/Mia/Nautilus/Spelunker (Bit Blot/Derek)
The Golden Knight/Bonesaw Stage (Xerus)
Turner (Wolfire Games)
Iji/Asha (Ultimortal)
Xoda Rap/Noitu Love/Omega Darn/Chalk/Rilo (konjak)
Gish/Meatboy (Edmund/Cryptic Sea)
Sexy Hiker/Crayon (jazzuo)
Lyle/Blue Cube/Green Cube/Yellow Cube/Red Cube (Nic Destefano)
Dwarf Fortress (Bay 12 Games)
Charles Barkley/Hell B-Ball/Cyberdwarf (Tales of Games)
Trilby/Cabadath/John Defoe (Yahtzee)
Liero/Health Pack/Chiquita Bomb (Joosa Riekkinen)
Nikujin (Ikiki)
Ip/Invincible Burger/Life Toast (Podunkian)
Gomez (Phil Fish)
Gunlimb (Radnom)
Asia/Mondo Medicals/Shotgun Ninja (cactus)
Death Worm Desert/Electro Mine (JTR)
Fantastic Blood Boy (Gustav Kilman)
Juni/Knytt Garden/Umbrella/Hologram/Ball (Nifflas)*
Pathspace/Ortho Point/Cut Point (RPGCreations)
Akuji/Tela (E. Hashimoto)
Samorost (Amanita Design)
Crayon Physics (Kloonigames)
The Tower (Auntie Pixelante)
Potion of Inversion (John Haas)
Karoshi (2DCube)
Imp (TeeGee)
Seiklus (Cly5m)
Armadillo (Peter Stock)
Beethro (Caravel Games)
Rescue the Beagles/Owl (16x16)
Goo Ball/Regurgitation Pumping Station (2D Boy)
Kaltos (Mark Pay)
Rope Burner (Kian Bashiri)
Bird Statue/Golden Arrow (Matt Thorson)
I Wanna be the Guy Stage (Kayin)
Blue Knight/Alien Hominid (The Behemoth)
Aggroll
Frogatto

Permission Pending
Reimu/Marisa (ZUN)
Madotsuki (Kikiyama)
Minecraft (Notch)
Canabalt (Adam Atomic)
VVVVVV (Terry)
Harry Flowerpower (Lazrael)
Allergic Pig (Matt Hammill)
Kittey (Bernie)
Tim (Jon Blow)
Crab/Rocket Propelled Chainsaw (Data Realms)
The Dishwasher (Ska Studios)
Assasssin Blue (Banov)
Runman (Tom Sennett)
Sumotori (Peter Dutch)
Iwanaga (Buster)
Glum Buster (CosMind)
Soldexus (Pneophen)
Action Fist (Beau Blyth)
Little Fighter 2 (Marti and Starsky Wong)
Commander Video (Gaijin Games)
Rose and Camellia (GR3/Nigoro)
Dino Run (Pixel Jam)
All of our Friends are Dead (Amon26)
The White Chamber (Studio Trophis)
Shmup Storm- Tumiki Fighter (Kenta Cho)
Shmup Storm- Warning Forever Ship (Hikware)
Shmup Storm- Fraxy Ship (Mon)

Permission Denied
Quote/Curly/Balrog/Outer Wall/Heart Capsule/Red Flower/Lameza/Lamp of Time (Nicalis)

*He just didn't want us to have Knytts fighting, since they're always peaceful in the original games.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 05:28:32 AM »

Permission Denied
Knytt (Nifflas)***

Well, that's a shame

What about the stages, are we still allowed to use?
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 06:08:09 AM »

Yes, he said he was fine with stages. He made a good point, really. We would have had to cook up a lot of new and uncharacteristic moves for Juni if she had been a playable character.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2008, 06:23:34 AM »

I don't know if we'll ever have an answer from those japanese devs. they tend to be not very open to the world, nor talkative.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2008, 06:51:02 AM »

I find it rather strange, actually. Unless there's a Secret Japanese Tigsource where they all meet. I've always imagined Ikiki as some kind of mad hermit, to be honest, living in a little shack in the... uh, Japanese Wilderness. This was not helped by his new website, which features a little, lonely shack on some grass as the front page. And lots of GIFs which suggest the byproducts of a somewhat insane mind. Hooray.

I think Nifflas' characters being excised from the game is fine - they are after all, completely peaceful. Seems strange to give them fighting mechanics.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2008, 06:58:40 AM »

This is a much-needed thread. Well done, chutup.

It's probably worth adding that we have Nifflas' permission to use elements from his games, like enemies or levels; he just doesn't want Knytt or Juni made into fighters.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2008, 08:49:02 AM »

i gotta respect nifflas's decision there.  knytt or juni simply wouldn't work as fighters and it wouldn't be right to make them into fighters.  a knytt stories level might be quite cool though.

also, i think including some of the pixelart for the characters might help sway our case in our favor - it's nice to see something like that and i think they would get a better feel for the game by seeing it.  also, i think they would be so caught up in  Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss at seeing the awesome sprites that they might relent immediately.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2008, 09:23:55 AM »

I'm pretty sure I was asked about Xoda Rap and I said you could use her.

FOR NOW, HAHAAHAHAHAHAahahadfd.
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2008, 09:59:04 AM »

Forever.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2008, 04:58:02 PM »

Cheers konjak. First post edited accordingly.

In other news, the 'contact' page on jazzuo's site is broken.
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2008, 05:03:34 PM »

It's probably worth adding that we have Nifflas' permission to use elements from his games, like enemies or levels; he just doesn't want Knytt or Juni made into fighters.

You can use Juni and/or Knytt as a spectators, like in the KOF arenas. That is, of course, if nifflas permits their use as, um, "decoration".
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2008, 06:15:33 PM »

Can they be used as "dummies" ? like punching balls?
I mean they would remain non-violent, wouldn't they?
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2008, 06:28:11 PM »

If there was a 'jaw drop' emoticon, I'd use it right now.
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2008, 09:41:26 PM »

I was quite shocked to see GeneralValter posting such outrage. Once I realized it was actually Moi, it was fairly unsurprising though.
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2008, 09:43:33 PM »

(OT: super noob thing to say, but why on here and on pixelation do people's avatars get haxxored and shooped together?  i mean, does a mod do it, or..?))
did not mean to derail the thread, sorry in advance.
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2008, 11:13:48 PM »

Pretty sure it's just a avatar fad. I did my avatar like this just because I'm unoriginal and wanted to be cool like everybody else.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2008, 07:59:05 AM »

You guys have no idea Gentleman
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2008, 11:48:58 AM »

Can they be used as "dummies" ? like punching balls?
I mean they would remain non-violent, wouldn't they?
I was having the same idea sort of. When I read that "He just didn't want us to have Knytts fighting" I just thought that, well, they don't have to fight, but like, they're gonna lose pretty bad if they don't...
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2008, 03:37:42 AM »

Can they be used as "dummies" ? like punching balls?
I mean they would remain non-violent, wouldn't they?
I was having the same idea sort of. When I read that "He just didn't want us to have Knytts fighting" I just thought that, well, they don't have to fight, but like, they're gonna lose pretty bad if they don't...


Actually I think what he meant was that his creatures should be involved in any kind of violent action and I think he would appreciate it even less if they were just punching dummies. Imho, it would actually  be quite a rude offense towards him and his characters so I'm definitely against it.

Even Knytts applauding in the background doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, so I'd say a Knytt stage is the most that there should be, if even at all. Maybe it would be better to completely leave out such an peaceful and sensible game, even if it's one of the better-known independent titles...
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2008, 08:05:28 AM »

yeah, i have to agree with kovski.  i think knytt is a definite kNO.  why?  i think personally it would be a big offense to have your iconic indie game that's all about peacefulness and lack of conflict to be destructible punching bags in a tigsource fighting game.  i'm also knot even sure about the use of knytt stages in the game.  that might knot be a good idea either. 

also we should figure out some way of getting knifflas to join tigsource.  he would be awesome to talk to and etc.
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