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[antoniodamala]

Do art really need to evoke emotion, then they only can be called "art"? Because it's certainly bug me that people keep saying that art has to have a meaning to be called art.

Nope. Sometimes art is just about aesthethics, form, colour, texture. And that's ok.

I don't buy it.  Whoever created the piece of art decided that whatever his/her subject is, even if it's just a texture, is interesting.  That's a value judgement right there.  Not only that, but in presenting it to others, he/she declares "this is art,"  which means they are making a statement about what they consider art.  Likewise anyone who puts out an executable and declares "this is a game" is giving an opinion on what games are or should be.

Yes but what he is talking about is emotions. Nobody is denying that a statement is being made, i'm just pointing out that the focus sometimes may not be to evoke emotion but other things.

[Muz]

I struggle to find the word for it, but I think 'emotions' comes closest to it. Maybe 'thought' is a suitable word too?

You can have really, really nice aesthetics, but if they hold no meaning, then it's not really art. Like for example, the default Windows XP background is a very beautiful photograph, but because it's the default background of every computer, it has lost any artistic appeal to most people.

Or there's a lot of beauty in the every day movement of curtains and dust, but are meaningless in the real world. Yet the exact same movements when put into a computer game are more meaningful and artistic.

Any attempt to bring 'art' into those things would try to instill emotions into it, like a poem or a photograph designed to highlight them.

[clockwrk_routine]

mass reproduction, takes away meaning/feeling/emotion.  art that ages and shows the struggle of the artist through the use of material, brings out a certain authenticity / presence of the work.  Though there are artist that work with that in mind, completely removing themselves from their work, and mass reproduction as a means to reflect lack of meaning as a message like certain pop artists.  digital media seems to fall under that.  But digital media's strongest vehicle is stimulation and carrying someone through an experience, I don't know if you should be concerned with trying to capture presence.  I am inexperience so this could be bullshit.

[gimymblert]

Miyazaki and pixar is waiting for you outside, they have a gun and some torture device ...

[Graham-]

Miyazaki is definitely against torture, but I'm not.