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« on: July 20, 2007, 10:14:26 AM »

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16868

Friend just sent me this link...

Denis Dyack has massive, massive balls.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 10:16:36 AM »

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You would know. Lips Sealed
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 10:18:23 AM »

Yeah, heard about this.

On the one hand... Too Human lol. Terrible looking game, by the numbers sci fi shitty plot, that E3 video was absolutely fucking laughably bad, and the game itself doesn't look like it'll set anything on fire, and it always looked pretty dire. It's easily one of the most pathetic games in development right now that I can think of second to Duke Nukem Forever and I feel sorry for anyone who's lumped with working on it.

On the other... seems a lot of unreal engine games are delayed, and industry word is that epic basically just neglected support in favour of getting gears out the door. So there's anecdotal evidence to support this. But Dyack is kind of asking for too much with the lawsuit either way IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 10:19:26 AM »

this is going to be interesting.
KOEI also claims that all the back and forth regarding fatal inertia's PS3 version was due to problems they had with UE3.

im siding with dyak on this one just because i think mark rein is a dick.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 10:20:24 AM »

I know Mark Rein is a dick.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 10:24:03 AM »

well there you go.

too human is a joke, though.

a friend of mine once worked on it as a tester.
it was a ps1 game then.
it was his first job.
he says it sucked then too.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 10:25:53 AM »

hmm, it was a completely different game back then. different setting, different story, different game play. (what like, 5 years ago or more?) i don't see how that would inform an opinion on the current version.

also don't really see how its a "by the numbers" sci fi plot.

new e3 trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21482.html
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2007, 10:26:57 AM »

Probably a different team too. Maybe the actual game title is cursed!
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2007, 10:28:25 AM »

i dunno, the new trailer got me excited, and didn't look like typical sci-fi.

but you probably just all think i'm a fucking idiot.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2007, 10:35:11 AM »

the main guy is bald space-marine-ish looking guy and his name is Balder.

his name...is Balder.

Balder
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2007, 10:35:55 AM »

Snap out of it! *shakes Alec* God damnit I told you to snap out of it!!

But yeah, personally I just thought it was derivative nonsense, two handguns shooting in either direction, flying saws, automatic pistols with no recoil, a robot that eats people... and the direction was terrible too. And that robot looked more than a bit like Dog from Half-Life 2.

edit: lol, fish
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2007, 10:39:57 AM »

Woohoo, you guys outdid your usual assholeness. Smiley

I guess that's what this forum is turning into.

God, can't wait till Aquaria gets released so you can be like:

"Naija? What kind of fucking name is THAT. LOLOMGPOOPANTS. FUCK THAT GAY 2D GAME."


Can't. Fucking. Wait.
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2007, 10:42:10 AM »

Uhh... ok  Huh?
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2007, 10:44:02 AM »

gee alec, what crawled into you today?
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2007, 10:45:24 AM »

"When in Rome, do as the Romans."  These are your forums, and look how you post.  What did you expect?
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2007, 10:47:50 AM »

"When in Rome, do as the Romans."  These are your forums, and look how you post.  What did you expect?

"My" forums?

And what the fuck are you talking about, "look how you post".
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2007, 10:48:30 AM »

*manhugs alec*
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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2007, 10:50:54 AM »

Chill guys... anyway, I'll happily admit that the Sci-Fi premise for Too Human is a nice one, so I'll retract my by-the-numbers comment from earlier. I was really just commenting on the trailer which I found to be pretty derivative, and extrapolating from that datapoint and the E3 footage from a year ago, I stand by my initial statement that I feel sorry for anyone working on it - especially in light of the lawsuit and the rumours about UE3 having shitty support.
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2007, 10:55:20 AM »

I really want to know what dannobot is talking about. I've knocked some things in my time, but I felt like I've done it fairly and with a reasonable amout of explanation on my side.

What aggravates me in this situation is I can really relate to SK. They're trying to make something that's important to them, and its been fucked over numerous times.

I guess to me they still seem like a small team. It helps that I actually like their games, unlike a lot of people I suppose.

When someone dismisses all that hard work, and striving and effort, that to me seems like it was done with noble ambitions, it seems really uncaring when coming from a fellow developer.

But hey, I can take a hint too.
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2007, 10:58:07 AM »

I liked Legacy of Kain, except for the ass combat system. Roll Eyes

As for the Rome comment, that REALLY depends on the context.
I think it was aimed at Haowan and Fish, sort of a "You guys were dicks so don't have a fit when another person is a dick" or something.
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