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[velocirection]

Yeah I'm a bit torn on how content for kids should be. In a way, I kind of think it should be more sterile and wholesome... because I really don't want any kid to grow up to be a weirdo like myself(you think I don't wish I was more normal sometimes!? >_>) But on the other hand... I don't think that would make things better and probably just make things worse.

Idk thankfully I'm not making stuff for kids so I don't have to think about how what I'm making will effect someone's mental development.

And then again, it was discovering pr0nz and the fact that every kid in the middle school I went to was a homophobic, sexist perv that made me fun me all the time that made me the way I am. As opposed to "Finger Prince" jokes and such in cartoons. (Also my parents were very strict about letting me watch/play things so yeah probably was less the tv/game media I consumed and more the other stuff)

Getting off topic though...

[michaelplzno]

Well art and its consumption by kids is an interesting topic: Maybe it should be a new thread?

I know a guy who found out a bit about himself when he saw all those old 80s cartoons with the muscle men.

I also have a nephew who is 3 who is in the "police are always right" phase, and they told him about Rosa Parks at school and he almost cried when I tried to tell him that the police were wrong, not because of prejudice but just because he knows the police are the "good guys" always. It did not compute for him with all his "Paw Patrols" and other such stuff. And its depressing that the world isn't as nice as what he wants: some people wearing black hats and being bad guys and some people wearing white hats standing for truth and justice.

Its tough, I'm a firm advocate that our soul is partially in the art we consume and enjoy, and also defined by the art we hate. When we let ourselves feel what a character or work or art is expressing we are finding who we are. And kids need to do that too as an important part of becoming full grown humans.

I know Anno of Evangelion fame is an advocate that kids need to have some bumps in the road in order to grow up and I hate his point of view. I can't even watch Evangelion anymore. Just the other day I was watching an analysis of its philosophy on youtube and I was just bummed out for the whole day. But then was eva a kids show? I think the reaction that a lot of the shonen anime fans (kids) had to it was to simply not watch it, and when they aired it in a more adult time slot it did better and went on to super fame.

I come from a family where 1, I was allowed to watch any move I wanted as long as I didn't repeat the words in them, and 2 my grandmother would turn off a movie if she suspected it had a sad ending. So that is my bias: I think jokes like the fingerprints pun are harmless and pretty juvenile in nature. Its ironic if we think that boner jokes are adult jokes because its kids who make those jokes in the school yard all the time. Whereas if you make a boner joke when you are trying to talk to a woman on a date you might not be so lucky unless she is into immature men.

So again its tough. I'm a firm believer that the parents should have a say in all this, and that there should be a editorial standards and practices to pretty much everything we watch, because even though I watched R-rated movies as a kid there is still a lot of protection that goes into what can be shown on screen. I also think people should make it clear what kind of experience you are in for if you deal with a piece of art. Here on the tigforum art section its clear this is not an area for children, so there is a lot of filtering that happens automatically: what 8 year old is logged into tigforum? And if a kid makes it onto tig, maybe by clearing the hurdles of finding this place they are saying they are ready to see some more "out there" content?

[velocirection]

Phew well to address some points!

The guy who found out a bit about himself with the 80s macho man type stuff, sometimes I wonder how much of it is finding out what you like vs. how that influences you. Did I find out something about myself when I found a picture of some lion guys having sex? Did I find out even more of myself when later I saw the work of Onta/Rajii/other artists that drew girly animal guys?

I always wonder if my first encounter with pr0nz wasn't gay furry related how different I'd be today. Or would it just be inevitable I'd be into that weird shit. But *that's* an entirely different topic...

Your nephew... At least he learned that cops aren't exactly the good guys! Hehe I hope he doesn't realize too soon that that was merely one crushing disappointment out of many, many more to come as he grows older ^^; I'll jokingly tell my niece(almost 12 yo) when something embarrassing/bad happened to her at school "Don't worry, that ordeal won't seem as bad when the next horribly embarrassing or soul crushingly disappointing thing happens!" and she just sighs and rolls her eyes at me. I also occasionally act really surprised she can read when she gets done reading something to me because I'm the love able but annoying stupid uncle.

Also, it is ironic that boner jokes are adult jokes despite like middle school/high school aged kids being the ones that make these jokes the most. But I guess it's more humor that's adult themed but juvenile in nature. Don't get me wrong though, I think you can tell that I do appreciate a good juvenile bit of humor now and again! As a 27 year old fossil. The opposite is true for guys though, boner/sex jokes have a decent chance of scoring you some laughs. (Obviously it varies person to person but I mean women are much less receptive to that in general)

And I wouldn't say an 8 year old is browsing tigs. But I have seen some minors years ago(like 16 or so) before posting and making games. Even then though this forum is so far from what it used to be that I feel like it's so unlikely many youngsters(if any at all) regularly browse or have accounts. I personally was a teenager when I was a lurking around here but that was also back in the tigsource golden age. That being said though obviously the forums should be kept generally safe for viewing by whippersnappers.

[michaelplzno]

On the boner jokes: I know some women who get a kick out of them too, we call them keepers. But again, that kind of woman is interested in a man who is less serious about himself.

One of my favorite anime's as a teenager was FLCL which was quite a psychological bit about a kid falling for an older woman. Which my GF and I did a game based on the show about lighting and controlling a fire. Of course its pretty easy to interpret based on the psychology of the character who is doing the burn: let it get to hot or too cold and its game over.

You can play the game here and see if you enjoy lighting and controlling the flames: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/718022

On the "how much did it influence you vs how much is it discovering yourself" I've seen furry stuff and a lot of images that I, no offense, am not into and just by seeing some of the stuff I didn't suddenly turn furry. I think at pretty much any time in my life if you showed me lions getting it on or whatever I wouldn't have decided that I wanted to be a furry.

I think this scene may have warped my fragile little mind though:





Which I still laugh about to this day.

[velocirection]

Some chicks do like a good boner joke and yeah hehe! Those are the keepers :3

Interesting game, I like how the goal is to keep it below 100% and above 0% though my strategy of always keeping a small bit of building somewhere didn't work because it accidentally got connected to a bigger piece!

Idk I do feel like what you're exposed to as a youngster does influence what you'll be into older. Maybe it's not 100% but perhaps it pushes someone in a certain direction. It's just weird that it would be fated that this person becomes a furry, like how/why does it happen? Maybe we'll never know.

The spaceballs scene was good too.

By the way, another background done :3

(this time it's 100% clean)

[Capntastic]

Weighing in because of reports:

Use judgment when posting spicy pics, innuendos like Baitin’ is fine.  Link anything you’re not sure of and label it 18+. 

Be mature both in posting and reacting to art; this is a community of all sorts of people.

[zikbakguru]

To cope with all those painful moments in solo-developing games, I ocassionally draw before I begin working on stuffs or when my mind is all boggled from those coding sessions, To clear out my mind. And I also tend to vent off my feelings and all the wacky thoughts into the drawing in the process.. So the final product often becomes a pile of indescribable soup of.. things.
Anywho, This is my small selection(..dump?) of art I have been drawing since 2016, Here we go :
*INTENSE DUMPING NOISES*
Some wacky banner stuff.. The sentence in the banner doesn't really have any particular meanings to it.
My most recent drawing!


..Cat? Maybe cat.


I was very ambitious in the sketching phase while drawing this but I got bored of it not so long after and just rushed everything else including the guy's other half limbs.


Bad & "realistic" box arts like the.. thing of NES Mega man was one of my main inspirations that got me into drawing, And recently (maybe last year IDK) I've painted few bootleg box arts for games!
This is our boyo Baba from game called Baba is you, by Hempuli :


..And this one is (obviously) the infamous cat-mech pilot from game Gato Roboto by doinksoft :


And this is my interpretation of the game's graphics in Lode runner, Apple ][ version.
(..damn, Seems like I got the anatomy & perspective of the ray gun ｏｂｌｉｔｅｒａｔｅｄ in this drawing.. Oh well.)


And finally, This one.. Has no particular description. It's up to you to determine what this thing.. means.

[McMutton]

Ha! Those fake covers are great- you definitely nailed the aesthetic.



Here's the current character lineup from Ethios: