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« Reply #660 on: May 15, 2017, 08:20:32 AM » |
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Nintendo created good base for future Zelda games. I really liked most of the changes in Botw. If they make another installment in 2-3 years. I hope they create longer main dungeons and more monster variety..
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« Reply #661 on: May 17, 2017, 02:05:38 AM » |
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« Reply #662 on: May 17, 2017, 07:30:50 AM » |
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword's Dungeon Design | Boss Keys
One more to go before BOTW
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« Reply #663 on: May 17, 2017, 08:00:48 AM » |
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Dude.
That video is unlisted.
How did you even get the link??
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« Reply #664 on: May 17, 2017, 08:14:11 AM » |
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yeah it's really impressive that a couple of dudes are making this for ipad, but this is so, so, so not the kind of game i'm looking for on a phone/tablet. and once it gets ported to consoles it's just a mediocre zelda clone.
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« Reply #665 on: May 17, 2017, 08:16:45 AM » |
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Dude.
That video is unlisted.
How did you even get the link??
Holy lol, I watched it because I had the notification lol (plot twist he hate skyward sword but dungeon are good) I think it's the patreon video that got out of hand lol. Expect something later, I'll repost.
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« Reply #666 on: May 17, 2017, 08:20:50 AM » |
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I did have the time to watch it too haha. I guess I should probably tip him something since I got to see the video. Interesting take on Skyward Sword too.
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« Reply #667 on: May 17, 2017, 08:34:20 AM » |
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yeah it's really impressive that a couple of dudes are making this for ipad, but this is so, so, so not the kind of game i'm looking for on a phone/tablet. and once it gets ported to consoles it's just a mediocre zelda clone. I'm so sad zelda is only ever competing against itself, most copy are only good because there isn't anything else to quench the thirst lol and are on platform with zeo competition so it top by default. The main core of zelda is navigation puzzle, which most game that shared similarity (open world, swordfight) have as understate. Hence why I place mario and banjo in the zelda genre (lock and key, key upgrade, occasional combat and puzzle).
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« Reply #668 on: May 17, 2017, 08:47:39 AM » |
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but this is so, so, so not the kind of game i'm looking for on a phone/tablet. yep
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« Reply #669 on: May 17, 2017, 09:20:28 AM » |
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It's back
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword's Dungeon Design | Boss Keys
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« Reply #670 on: May 17, 2017, 09:25:01 AM » |
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i mean, oceanhorn a nice example of cargo cult approach to designing game every action has an unpleasant noise to it, chest opening has vertigo camera movement, its third person shooter camera on mobile device etc
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« Reply #671 on: May 17, 2017, 09:37:28 AM » |
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword's dungeon design: Simplistic puzzles that require an unreasonable amount of backtracking across large empty rooms.
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« Reply #672 on: May 17, 2017, 10:24:33 AM » |
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It's not backtracking, it's understanding the lay out
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« Reply #674 on: May 18, 2017, 02:09:47 AM » |
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HOT TAKE: story dungeons should not be expanded in a botw sequel, but completely removed. Zelda dungeons were cool 20 years ago, now theyre just boring collections of samey puzzles themed around the same couple themes (fire, water, desert, forest, sky).
I'd love to see something with bigger towns and more NPCs tho.
EDIT: but i predict that won't happen and the series will gradually revert back to linearity and the "traditional" zelda progression.
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« Reply #675 on: May 18, 2017, 01:19:21 PM » |
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Yeah honestly if all the work that went into the Shrines and Divine Beasts could've gone into creating more beautiful and engaging locales and deeper side quests I'd be totally content
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« Reply #676 on: May 18, 2017, 03:38:13 PM » |
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Some people do like the "puzzle maze" dungeon formula of zelda, and given it's the only game that does that competently, that will be a big loss. We need both formula to co exist, we don't even have metroid anymore.
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« Reply #677 on: May 18, 2017, 04:13:26 PM » |
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and given it's the only game that does that competently
not even close lmao, there are plenty of good puzzle games (according to people who like puzzle games) that don't reuse the same simplistic puzzles over and over again.
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« Reply #678 on: May 18, 2017, 04:15:57 PM » |
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I'm not talking about puzzle, I am talking about puzzle maze, the action puzzle maze genre of zeldo. Ie backtracking as a puzzle.
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« Reply #679 on: May 19, 2017, 11:57:43 AM » |
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yeah, i'm with gimmy on this one. there really aren't many games doing that kind of navigation puzzle, and the ones that do it well are few and far between.
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