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« on: June 18, 2016, 08:09:42 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2016, 08:12:41 AM »

don't answer and ignore them

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keep the mail don't erase em, can be useful as a proof. (in case of)
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2016, 08:20:31 AM »

there should probably be a blocklist for profit share idea guys and spamming game musicians
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2016, 08:30:30 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2016, 08:34:17 AM »

i work for money and i create for free
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2016, 03:20:45 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2016, 03:22:08 PM »

it's one thing to collaborate with a friend on a project, but if someone asks me for free work i'm just pfft what no stop
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2016, 05:24:24 PM »

it's rough because i'm guessing the more you improve the more you'll get those annoying emails
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2016, 06:10:01 PM »

http://shouldiworkforfree.com
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2016, 03:28:47 PM »

When I was getting these emails a lot I started responding to them with large copy-pastes of irrelevant wiki articles, but even that got boring, so I just started just clicking "report spam" for them in gmail.
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2016, 02:19:29 PM »

i work for money and i create for free

Well said!
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2016, 05:53:50 PM »

Superb Joe misquoted the well known song "Money for Nothing and Chicks for Free" because, let's face it, if the man has a weakness, it's pop culture
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2016, 05:30:23 AM »

Superb Joe misquoted the well known song "Money for Nothing and Chicks for Free" because, let's face it, if the man has a weakness, it's pop culture outside of Transformers
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2016, 06:16:29 AM »

Superb Joe misquoted the well known song "Money for Nothing and Chicks for Free" because, let's face it, if the man has a weakness, it's pop culture outside of Transformers, Except for Transformers devastation.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2016, 04:01:38 PM »

Well, technically, if you do end up with a profit share of the game, you're not working for free. Wink

I think the guy in the email is pretty upfront about it. He doesn't try to fool you into anything and makes you aware there would indeed be a risk. I mean, there's no harm in asking is there? Especially if he's transparent and upfront about it. It's not like he's trying to lure you under false pretenses.

I personally don't mind these types of emails, probably because I've been in their shoes. When you start a project, you don't necessarily have the funds available to hire folks to work on the game. You might be a very good artist but need someone to help out with the programming aspect of things. If you can barely make a living with your current job, it might be difficult to pay the wages a certain specific skill. So in the end it means either of two things:
a) You give up on your project because you don't have the funds
b) you find people who believe in your project enough to take that risk

If you make a living as an artist, I can certainly understand that it might be a source of irritation if you see it as: "Why are people asking me to work for future potential cash, it doesn't work that way for other jobs!" But suppose the concept is indeed very good and the person who is contacting you has finished coding the game and the music and just need a few art assets, could be worth a shot maybe. It's a case by case basis in my humble opinion.

As for spamming game musicians again, I don't personally mind. They're trying to make a living and being proactive about it by trying to get involved in different projects in my view. I don't see this as being something to scorn at.

The composer involved in my project is doing a wonderful job and was the one to contact me first. Some of them are actually good, talented people so I think it's possible to pass up on some really good composers if they end up being part of group, i.e. the spamming musicians.

Maybe you could put some information somewhere on your profile or in your signature which clearly indicates that you don't do profit share. That would probably stop people from contacting you. Might be worth a shot!
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2016, 05:50:05 PM »

You say your portfolio says "no profit share" but I just looked at your portfolio thread on tigsource and it doesn't say that anywhere. It only says that on your website. If someone only looked at your forum version (which has your contact info) they wouldn't know that.

Not everyone is going to go to your website.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2016, 09:00:59 AM »

Okay? And? I was only pointing out a possible reason why some emails might pop up. Is adding a bolded sentence to your forum posts stating you don't accept profit share in addition to it being written on your website really that big of a deal? It may or may not help, but at least then you cover your bases.

When I look at portfolios here, pixelation, etc., I don't bother with ones that don't have images in their forum post and only link to their website because I'm lazy. I don't think it's crazy to assume that other people might do the same.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2016, 09:17:08 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2016, 09:23:25 AM »

this thread brings up an interesting point: Transformers Devastation
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2016, 01:12:31 PM »

Freelance is tough. I hope you find some decent clients. I guess sifting through the garbage emails is just part of it, unfortunately.
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