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[froggyishere]

Because to me it seems like this...

So a person has an idea for a game. Then they create some hype, get some backers. Then they make a game and launch it on Steam or something. Then the Steam launch succeeds. Then... they start a Kickstarter? I thought Kickstarter was... you know, to kick-start things? Can somebody please offer some insights into this? I'm terribly confused.

I mean, should you actually make a game or should you just make it seem like you're making a game and just focus on a kickstarter?

[ｂ∀ ｋｋｕｓａ]

can you put an example of a game that did a kickstarter after being launched on steam?

[Superb Joe]

kickstarter is a machine powered by bad ideas and thus our greatest source of clean, renewable energy

[Oddball]

We cover Kickstarters on the PigIgnorant.com podcast and we rarely come across already released games on there. The ones that we do come across are usually doing it to fund some additional content. The majority of stuff in the Kickstarter games section is woefully under-developed, and often times only features a picture and a one paragraph description. The most successful Kickstarters are the ones that show some progress, but are still early enough that backers imaginations can run wild as to what the final game will be like.

[s0]

I know of some board games that did a second post-launch KS, usually for a second edition because the first turned out to be an unfinished and poorly tested mess. Never heard of any videogames doing that though.

Anyway, most of the big kickstarter successes are not purely funded through KS money. I think Wasteland 2 tried that, but they had to scale back the game's production values quite a lot to get by. Most backers treat kickstarter as a glorified preorder so low-tier kickstarter backers cut directly into your sales, meaning it's a bit less money than it looks to begin with.

A successful KS is also very good for PR, so often kickstarters are run with the intent of attracting publisher interest rather than funding development per se.

[froggyishere]

can you put an example of a game that did a kickstarter after being launched on steam?

Not without singling someone out like a total d-bag.

EDIT: Perhaps not RELEASED on Steam, but after a successful Steam greenlight campaign but prior to being released on Steam.

It definitely seems that kickstarter is not so much what it would have you believe by its name. It seems to me from all the stuff I've heard, like the Mighty no. 9 debacle, like a way to get people to invest in something with little-to-no guarantee of a return on that investment, for no reason.

[s0]

ya but you were talking about it like it's a common thing (which to my knowledge it isn't)

[froggyishere]

ya but you were talking about it like it's a common thing (which to my knowledge it isn't)

I dunno, I'm just going on my impression of it as of right now. I don't know what to make of it, it just seems like a web of lies.

[froggyishere]

kickstarter is a machine powered by bad ideas and thus our greatest source of clean, renewable energy

There is no way to respond to anything you say.

[Cobralad]

if you were investing in megaman zx 2 made by Hyperdimension Neptunia developers you got what you wnated

[Superb Joe]

kickstarter is a machine powered by bad ideas and thus our greatest source of clean, renewable energy

There is no way to respond to anything you say.

well you found one way.

This labour, by slow prudence to make mild
A rugged people, and thro' soft degrees
Subdue them to the useful and the good.
Most blameless is he, centred in the sphere
Of common duties, decent not to fail
In offices of tenderness, and pay
Meet adoration to my household gods,
When I am gone. He works his work, I mine.

[Superb Joe]

i think this guy is talking about my sweet blameless child Paul Eres

[Oddball]

I dunno, I'm just going on my impression of it as of right now.

Well go over to the Kickstaarter games section right now and browse all the live campaigns, it doesn't take long, and you'll see that it is chock full of half-arsed poorly realised projects that have in no way already been successful.

[ｂ∀ ｋｋｕｓａ]

EDIT: Perhaps not RELEASED on Steam, but after a successful Steam greenlight campaign but prior to being released on Steam.

it's common for game not even being in alpha stage to be greenlit. Some devs consider greenlight as PR and just a way to ensure its place in steam. If a costumer knows you'll be on steam and that it's official, they are more eager to back your kickstarter.

[froggyishere]

kickstarter is a machine powered by bad ideas and thus our greatest source of clean, renewable energy

There is no way to respond to anything you say.

well you found one way.

This labour, by slow prudence to make mild
A rugged people, and thro' soft degrees
Subdue them to the useful and the good.
Most blameless is he, centred in the sphere
Of common duties, decent not to fail
In offices of tenderness, and pay
Meet adoration to my household gods,
When I am gone. He works his work, I mine.

You wear the yoke of service to your people, that they may know wisdom and not folly... Heavy is he head that wears the crown, amirite?

[Superb Joe]

my favourite video game kick starter is by the guy who made that super mario crossover flash game and he got $53,000 to make exactly the same game but with different sprites and instead rented a house to develop his flash game in unity but couldn't figure out how to use unity and to this date still has not managed to make his own game that he already made before

[froggyishere]

Thanks for your guys' answers so far.

(Except Joe who does the lord's work, and this surely not in vain, for God is not mocked)

[froggyishere]

my favourite video game kick starter is by the guy who made that super mario crossover flash game and he got $53,000 to make exactly the same game but with different sprites and instead rented a house to develop his flash game in unity but couldn't figure out how to use unity and to this date still has not managed to make his own game that he already made before

Sounds like everybody I know who uses Unity, give or take $53,000.

[Superb Joe]

second favourite is this one

[Schoq]

mine's brandon boyer raising 100,000 dollars to launch a video game tumblr page