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« Reply #27480 on: March 22, 2018, 03:55:43 AM » |
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« Reply #27481 on: March 22, 2018, 04:18:57 AM » |
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« Reply #27482 on: April 12, 2018, 04:08:19 AM » |
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Hi Outside Kickstarter and all , do you know videogame funds in NYork or usa to apply to ? (we might extend to canada ) example : https://gamecenter.nyu.edu/about/incubator/Basically incubator investors help projects get going through their first steps We will use kickstarter , indiegogo in the last chance i think |
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« Reply #27483 on: April 12, 2018, 09:52:47 AM » |
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« Reply #27484 on: April 17, 2018, 12:55:27 PM » |
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« Reply #27485 on: April 17, 2018, 01:39:32 PM » |
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wanted to post something snarky about wasted creative talent but then I remembered TV commercials
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« Reply #27486 on: April 17, 2018, 02:03:18 PM » |
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Or is it a safe way to learn and hone craft for actually creative jobs? asking for a sonic shitty friend
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« Reply #27487 on: April 17, 2018, 02:52:30 PM » |
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Meh, creating anything is better than nothing.
Coming up with a universe / characters oneself can be learned later.
Mimesis (mimicking to learn) is the foundation of higher order knowledge which even infants do naturally: The self creation of a pattern based on at least one experience which contains useful elements one seeks to reinforce internally.
In the recent past A.I. made a great leap after applying the principal. If mimicry works for dumb machines and babies, it's OK for potential gamedevs too I guess. Trick is to actually let them know they can do more than just mimic.
Some youngsters are actually unaware of HOW to create something new or that such is even possible. Imagine a kid seeing a Disney show, learning it's a reboot of another older show, which is a rehash of Mother Goose which is a rehash of The Brother's Grim tales, which is a collection of older folk tales, which are rehashes of each other... they may assume everything is just remake of something else. I met one six year old who did not realize the potential for new creations even existed. In pre-school and 1st grade every time the teachers invoked "imagination" it was about some crap they had already seen in the past. Not something new. If I didn't know better I'd say this was by design.
What a strange realm this is becoming.
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« Reply #27488 on: April 18, 2018, 12:58:23 AM » |
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People now learn where to find information rather than strictly learning the information itself. I memorise every URL I use and have never liked or subscribed to anything because I am insane.
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« Reply #27489 on: April 18, 2018, 05:43:52 AM » |
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People now learn where to find information rather than strictly learning the information itself.
Strange but true. I've met few programmers who could actually make a program without looking up the language docs to find out what functions to call. We teach people that a potential exists and to realize it they must consult a greater source of knowledge. Rarely is that source within. |
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« Reply #27490 on: April 30, 2018, 06:23:16 AM » |
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I've met few programmers who could actually make a program without looking up the language docs to find out what functions to call. this sounds like a very useless skill |
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« Reply #27491 on: April 30, 2018, 07:05:31 AM » |
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I always made a distinction between knowing and understanding. I aim for the latter as most as possible but it did backfire on several occasions. So many exams in college required knowing. Then again, looking back on what my usual answers were "so you got this object that behaves like this and then it allows that other thingy to exchange energy with the first whatchacallit..." and I think maybe a bit of 'knowing' is important!
Not at all related: anyone heard of the uzebox? I am absolutely obsessed with this thing ever since I heard it existed. The dumbest way to describe it (but possibly efficient) is as a fantasy console without the fantasy part. It uses a cheap 8 bit microcontroller and it's open hardware, open software. It has emulator so you can play the games in your browser or you can build the thing and play it on your tv. I already ordered all the parts to put mine together. The only problem is that it seems to only attract engineers with a passing interest in videogames, so the library is almost entirely of demos and clones. It would be great if these communities would mix a little more.
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« Reply #27492 on: May 01, 2018, 05:57:27 PM » |
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Aaaand my obsession with the uzebox faded. Actually I'm a bit disenchanted with it; it's way too limiting in the graphics sector. But now I have this itch for a simple cheap microcontroller videogame that isn't so restrictive. Anyone know of any other? Something closer to the 16 bit era maybe. I wish Pico-8 had hardware.. it wouldn't be a fantasy console anymore though  |
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« Reply #27493 on: May 02, 2018, 12:34:04 AM » |
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it's way too limiting in the graphics sector.
xpend, xplain, xplicit, xpress! |
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« Reply #27494 on: May 02, 2018, 07:40:46 AM » |
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Keeping in mind this is the subjective opinion of an ignorant. I don't know exactly how it works under the hood, but graphics is handled somewhat indirectly by a layer called 'video mode' which, as the name implies, you can choose from a number of video modes. You can also make your own, of course, this is open source. And there is a big variety of video modes to choose from; some are high resolution, some have more colors, some have map N tiles and M sprites capabilities etc, some don't use sprites etc. I'm still going through all the options but they all have the same ram limitations. So even the lowest resolution and lowest number of colors you're still stuck with a single background layer with sprites over it and maybe with the possibility of scrolling the tile layer.
In my (ignorant and subjectiveTM) opinion it would be artistically more interesting to have less pixels on screen and less colors but more freedom of how to use it. I actually mentioned this there and my impression is that they are aware of it and the low RAM bottlenecks what can be done. Even with a super low resolution in black and white it would be hard to have a buffer system where you can draw at will and then display the result. The outcome is a lot of puzzle single screen games and some very simple looking scrolling games. Which is a shame because the processing power of this thing is actually better than 8 bit consoles.
Development is constant though, and there are active video modes still being developed and enough ready to use to fit almost every need.
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« Reply #27495 on: May 02, 2018, 09:23:37 AM » |
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So even the lowest resolution and lowest number of colors you're still stuck with a single background layer with sprites over it and maybe with the possibility of scrolling the tile layer. SO like the gameboy or the nes? |
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« Reply #27496 on: May 02, 2018, 10:07:59 AM » |
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I... think so! but with a bit more processing power (although I suspect that is being used to simplify game development, it is C and not asm after all). I hope I didn't sound too judgmental in my previous posts. My previous obsession with it is totally valid, this little system is quite an amazing project. I still want more ram though  |
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« Reply #27497 on: May 02, 2018, 02:07:25 PM » |
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No worry, I'm intereting to see what's on, I don' care about teh judging, I didn't knew about it, I'm interested in trying old hardware the way they were, I'm currently doing old 3d rendering like wolfenstein or doom, though not at a low level yet, I hope to implement raster function for software 3d too.
It's just that doing pcg there is a lot to look back at this, so I'm training by redoing old stuff, I have start documenting myself on how people dealt with gb, snes, mega drive (genesis) and nes at hardware level. SO if I can have an actual cheap hardware to try, why not?
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« Reply #27498 on: May 02, 2018, 02:53:23 PM » |
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Not sure what you mean by "the way they were". Maybe give uzebox a try to see if it's what you're looking for. I always wanted to make games for mega drive and those consoles from that era but the technical challenges are too much for me and that's why I find uzebox so appealing. And I consider a bonus that it doesn't use parts that are out of production, making it an actual modern system that you can buy new (or buy parts).
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