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[LucasMaxBros]

Just found this recently, but decided to go into it with little knowledge. This really intrigued me and made me want to play alttp more since I had no idea what I could get. It made me have to be crafty with the current items, seek new ways to explore, and made me have to route on the spot so I could seek the nearest area with available chests to see if I could get more items....or just arrows.

But I wanted to discuss this because it's an interesting design compared to just about everything else I know. It's like a cross between randomly generated open world type games, but instead there's just one set world. The difference is the items given force you into unique scenarios and you have no idea what order you'll face the dungeons in since for all you know you could get the Bow in the last Dungeon!

I'm no random generation designer, but from what I have seen and played, the randomness is very controlled in a sense. Sure you could get some amazing gear or items in MineCraft right off the bat, but when it comes down to it there's also a "path" that you'll normally take. You'll get wood, make items, get food and stone, mine, get better tools and armor, Nether, etc... But here, you really have no idea what could happen and you might end up using items you'd never think of using to fight your way through.

I think a game with a set world but random items which causes random progression would be fairly interesting. Besides this hack... I can't think of anything that does it like this. I've already played alttp 3 times these past few days because of this and learned more about the games items and know how to better route my movements because of it.

If you want to play this, you'll of course need an emulator, and it'll be 1.0 Japanese (cause speedrunners). There are also some neat changes they made, such as less dialogue in some segments, instead of 999 Rupees, you get 9999 Rupees limit, Shovel and Flute are both kept, easier to switch Bottles, and if you're stuck in the Dark World cause you have no mirror saving and quitting will take you to the Light World. Oh, and they've made sure it's impossible for certain items to spawn in certain places. Like the Dash Boots can't be in the library...which you need to use the Dash Boots to get.

[s0]

you didn't mention what this thing actually does. does it just randomize item locations or what?

[LucasMaxBros]

Sorry, I thought the video was obvious enough. It just shuffles the items in chests/placed around. So Heart Pieces could be Rupees/Bombs/Items, etc.

[Raptor85]

i like the zelda 1 randomizer better just because there's nothing "broken" that requires resets/etc, and not starting with the sword makes it a lot more interesting, and since zelda 1's dungeons really could be played in any order anyways, it works very well.

[readyplaygames]

I like the zelda 1 randomizer better just because there's nothing "broken" that requires resets/etc, and not starting with the sword makes it a lot more interesting, and since zelda 1's dungeons really could be played in any order anyways, it works very well.

LttP becomes broken when randomized? And is it randomized each reset or per file?

[LucasMaxBros]

It's seeded. Basically the creators of the hack have a program that'll make the rom file with a random seed so other players can use it in a race. This hack was dedicated to Speedruns which is why a lot of things have been optimized such as completely getting rid of all rng from the Heart Piece mini-games and having some dialogue skipped completely.

Also the hack certainly isn't broken. I said they made it possible so you can't get stuck, with the only exception I suppose being that if you don't have the Mirror in Dark World you'll need to save and quit.

I've also heard there's an OOT randomizer that changes the rooms you go in which sounds intriguing.

[JD1980]

Thanks mate. I was looking for this link for a long time.