Kyuugatsu
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« on: February 06, 2017, 09:49:14 PM » |
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Hi! I'm thinking of maybe adding some 3D stuff to my 2D game and was wondering if y'all know of any good examples. Ragnarok is one of the only examples I know of: Although it's not quite what I'm thinking. A closer example is GTA 2: Any others?
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2017, 11:32:17 AM » |
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breath of fire 3
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2017, 11:50:04 AM » |
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almost all japanese ps1/ps2 tactics games, Take no prisoners
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2017, 02:08:00 PM » |
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if youre gonna put sprites in a 3d game give it an isometric view so you only need to make 2
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 01:47:03 AM » |
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Or top down. Make 1.
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Yeah.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 02:33:24 AM » |
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Tomba! Marvel VS Capcom 2 Paper Mario My own game... in a way... check my devlog below, it couldn't hurt...
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Kyuugatsu
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2017, 09:16:26 AM » |
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Those are all interesting examples. I think Paper Mario comes closest to integrating the two, maybe because they also use 2d sprites in the background? (Grass, trees, etc.)
I think the GTA 2 example could also be improved with the same technique, e.g. adding 2D awnings and decor on the buildings on the Z-axis.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2017, 04:23:04 AM » |
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Final fantasy VII is a good example.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2017, 09:25:06 AM » |
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Shantae: Half-Genie Hero is a good example. The main characters and enemies are rendered using 2D vector animations, but the backgrounds are entirely 3D.
There's a lot that can be done with this sort of approach, what you really need to be thinking about is what type/style of game you're hoping to make. This will significantly affect how your 2D/3D combination works together.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2017, 08:42:42 AM » |
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Not to be a party pooper but this style is in the same ugly/dated category as prerendered 3d to me. More often than not the sprites don't mesh with the 3d environments and everything looks janky and disjointed. Just like prerendered 3D i think it CAN be pulled off (breath of fire 4 still looks pretty) but it's very hard to get it right.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2017, 09:58:54 AM » |
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Not to be a party pooper but this style is in the same ugly/dated category as prerendered 3d to me. More often than not the sprites don't mesh with the 3d environments and everything looks janky and disjointed. Just like prerendered 3D i think it CAN be pulled off (breath of fire 4 still looks pretty) but it's very hard to get it right.
That's an interesting and relevant opinion to me so could you give me some feedback please?
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2017, 10:28:05 AM » |
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hmm, i guess your game looks ok (as does doom btw) because there isn't a harsh disconnect between the 2d and 3d elements.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2017, 10:42:56 AM » |
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i think paper mario does it best, and i'm not sure if it's because of the art itself or the fact that the game constantly reminds you that everything is made of paper so it just seems more natural than other games.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2017, 01:31:18 PM » |
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also how has this thread gone on for so long without anyone mentioning doom and other early first person shootgames?
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2017, 01:55:48 PM » |
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It's looking like Indivisible's gonna be using that kind of style:
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2017, 06:39:00 AM » |
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also how has this thread gone on for so long without anyone mentioning doom and other early first person shootgames?
bc pretending to be a computer and pointing out that there's TECHNICALLY nothing triple dee about doom is super boring after a while
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2017, 07:35:40 AM » |
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Technicalities apart. I think it blends so well that people don't even think of DOOM as a 3D game with 2D sprites.
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2017, 08:03:40 AM » |
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i wonder if it's not nostalgia that makes those early era fps work. (and also their good design) i remember hating Capcom vs Snk 2 , Mark of the Millennium 2001 because 3d background and huge sprite didn't blend well. (or because of frame rate drop)
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2017, 08:04:16 AM » |
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also how has this thread gone on for so long without anyone mentioning doom and other early first person shootgames?
bc pretending to be a computer and pointing out that there's TECHNICALLY nothing triple dee about doom is super boring after a while I meant in terms of combining 3d rendering with 2d sprites (which is what this thread is about)
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