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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2017, 02:51:39 PM »

Yea it's pretty much web and games on Steam that look blurry, so like, everything. My image editor too; I use GIMP which I've used for pixel art forever so I know it's not doing any interpolating when I zoom in.

To everyone, I'm only talking about Apple/Mac retina displays, HD or 4k or whatever the fuck displays things fine.

2x-ing pixel art and then displaying the image at half-res makes things a lot sharper yea but still not accurate. Anyways it sounds like it's something that's just gonna have to be lived with, kinda feels like the death of pixel art to me if all monitors go this way, at least like, 1:1 pixel art.
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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2017, 08:58:27 PM »

Really? In GIMP and games things look fine to me. So for me at least, it only seems to be due to interpolation in the browser, and doesn't seem to happen anywhere else. /: MBP 15" from 2013 if that helps.
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2017, 04:56:34 AM »

the only reason you should be getting any blur in pixel art on a monitor like that is if either your video card driver or your monitor hardware (i don't have one, with how "smart" they're getting i wouldn't put it past it though..) is doing some sort of AA With pixel art you always want linear scaling with no AA or you lose detail and blur the artwork.  Im on linux myself so it's a bit different but they do have similar graphics layers and drivers, and my nvidia driver has the option to do full screen AA for my window manager which has the EXACT effect you're talking about, it makes high res artwork look amazingly crisp and pixel art look blurry and wrong, with icons all messed up in firefox.  Games though look fine because they have their own opengl context and the AA is controlled by the application for that window.

It's turned off by default in the driver, but maybe for apple if it detects a retina display it turns that driver option on by default?
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