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[Cobralad]

never will stop it with the sass

[Ky.]

So.. exclusives huh?

I just want to say, that as an avid gamer across several platforms, I genuinely couldn't care less where a game calls home anymore. 

I have Steam, I also have Origin and Epic, I'm also on GOG and itch and GameJolt, I also have XBL and PSN, I'm used to my friends lists and social features being skewed and varied.  But at the end of the day, I dont really use any of those social features either. My friends and I coordinate over different communication platforms over which platform to get a thing on and we all agree to it, regardless of what that is.

I also get the frustration so don't get me wrong. I remember a time where I did care so it's not like I can't empathize.

[NowSayPillow]

I don't play anything online so ... I win, I guess.

[Schoq]

Gamers having their feelings hurt on behalf of valve corporation is pretty funny to watch

[Cobralad]

Haven't seen much actual gamers, but every social media and website now is game personalities and bizdevs losing their shit and giving a heartfelt lecture on games.

[Schoq]

Epic store should position itself as an alternative to steam that doesn't facilitate open neonazi organizing

[Cobralad]

doesn't facilitate open neonazi organizing

when did this happen

[ProgramGamer]

A little while after gamergate.

[Cobralad]

do you guys mean one of those "i googled bad words" articles or concious decisions on behalfe of valve team?

[ProgramGamer]

Afaik, it's valve being apathetic towards moderating its community spaces, resulting in those kinds of people making their home there.

[Cobralad]

Any substantial proofs of that? As a moderator, what are the ways to moderate 9 million multilingual users daily you would propose?

[ProgramGamer]

How and why would I know that?

[Cobralad]

You said valve did a popoo and should get their shit together and you don't know what it is and who you are.

[ProgramGamer]

I said I don’t know how to solve their problems for them. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem to solve.

[Schoq]

Any substantial proofs of that? As a moderator, what are the ways to moderate 9 million multilingual users daily you would propose?

if you're gonna implement a bunch of nonsense community features on your service maybe you should have a plan for moderating them, especially when your userbase is basically gamergate lolol

[filbs111]

AFAIK the moderation on Steam forums is controlled by the publisher/developer of the game in question.

It's annoying having so many launcher things, with different UIs to navigate. Steam's UI I find pretty unintuitive, and recommendation system still can't figure out what I like after many years. GOG's search sucks. Competition is great but with people being tied in to owning games on one platform, change is slow coming.

Would be sensible IMO if the back-end part that hosts games and front-end, that allows you to navigate all the content, go on forums, read/write reviews etc were separated. I guess the file hosting part should be distributed - developers might even self-host. Have a standardised open framework for distributing your binaries with standard metadata. Your game ownership would apply to downloading the game and you can launch/find games through any front-end, which would be paid for by affiliate links or similar. Take your pick from the available front-ends, which will vary in usability, some will be limited to family friendly titles etc. Anyone who have a problem with Epic, Steam or whatever having broken reviews, or censoring too little, or too much, can make their own front-end. Customers can choose between the Kotaku, or the Boner Culture front-end, or roll their own. People could stop moaning and start making.

Another wierd thing with all these launchers is that games on PC, i believe, aren't really sandboxed. An installer/launcher that ensured games i install aren't going to nick my bank details would be be asked to shut up and take my money.

[Cobralad]

Any substantial proofs of that? As a moderator, what are the ways to moderate 9 million multilingual users daily you would propose?

if you're gonna implement a bunch of nonsense community features on your service maybe you should have a plan for moderating them, especially when your userbase is basically gamergate lolol

plan is either implement some automatic content aware moderation or opening offices around the globe. Both steps are proven to be risky for companies like that and detrimental to neutral community.
The problem of content moderation lies within chicken and egg question of radicalisation. Valve tries to be neutral to not fuck everything up more, Epic closed itself completely to avoid problems(and possibly control information, galyonkin is probably not above buying traffic from tencent).