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« on: January 03, 2019, 10:21:43 AM »

Fling is a 2D platforming game with grappling hook as the only way to move.

Release info
Kongregate: https://www.kongregate.com/games/Alienplay/fling
Newgrounds: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/725915

GameJolt: https://gamejolt.com/games/Fling/387953
Itch: https://alienplay.itch.io/fling

Armor Games: https://armorgames.com/fling-game/18578

Trailer:





Gameplay
So to get to the certain point on the map you need to throw your hook and then pull yourself towards it. You can throw the hook harder if the distance
between your cursor and the player is larger.

Graphics
With this simple gameplay concept in mind I wanted to use a minimal, yet distinct art style for this game. Recently I've seen some games that use very
pixelated art style, which is something that looks very interesting to me and it's also something that I'm able to do, because I'm not really someone
who is good at art.
I think that it's better then a totally flat look.

Progress
So far I've finished 10 levels for the game. First 5 levels are an introduction and they just teach you how to play the game in a safe environment.
And the other 5 levels are more of a challenge with added spikes to make the things more interesting.

Visual Showcase:




So that's it for now. I hope you like this game. If you do you can follow me on social media (links are provided bellow).
I'll continue posting these devlogs so stay tuned for more.

Here you can follow my progress on the game
https://twitter.com/Alienplay_Games
https://www.instagram.com/alienplay.games/
https://gamejolt.com/games/Fling/387953
https://itch.io/t/366505/fling-platforming-with-grappling-hook-and-pixelated-art-style
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2019, 11:32:18 PM »


Here you can see a new mechanic added to the game. If you light up all these lights the door at the end will open and you can finish a level.



Here's showcase of a bouncy wall. It works exactly as it sounds, and I managed to create some interesting levels with this new mechanic.
The game has 20 levels in total for now.



Another level with bouncy walls, though in this one I added lights as well to make it more challenging.

Let me know what you think about the game and if you have any suggestions.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 12:49:39 AM »

Hello everyone!

I finished 30 levels for this game and I made it so that level names give you little clues on how to play those particular levels - for example "Be Patient".



Here's the showcase of a new mechanic, rotating mechanisms. I have a version of these mechanisms with spikes as well.
You need to take their speed in consideration when playing a level, which should make the game more interesting.


Next, thing I plan on doing is adding an endless mode to the game.
Let me know what you think.

Here you can follow my progress on the game
https://twitter.com/Alienplay_Games
https://www.instagram.com/alienplay.games/
https://gamejolt.com/games/Fling/387953
https://itch.io/t/366505/fling-platforming-with-grappling-hook-and-pixelated-art-style
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 01:34:41 AM »

I love grappling hooks! Haven't really played an entire game based around it before, this seems promising. The only thing that sticks out to me it seems like everything is moving a bit slowly, might be the GIF speed. But I see how it might be necessary too, like N++.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2019, 08:04:16 AM »

 Shocked Shocked its being really cool, do you have any ideas when comes to play? i want to play that so bad
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2019, 10:42:29 AM »

Hey everyone!
Thank you for your support!

Here's my progress on Fling since my last devlog.
First of all I made a simple, interactive tutorial for the game. It basically introduces you to game's controls and swinging mechanic.


I added main menu with level selection screen.


After that, I figured I should add some polish to the game. So I added some basic sound effects and visual effects.
Here you can see and hear the game after this update.




Because I already added all levels that I planed on adding to Fling (30 of them) I decided to test them with my friends.
It was very interesting to see how they react to different situations in the game, and we also found a lot of unbalanced levels that needed to be fixed.

That's it for now. Hope you like how the game is progressing, and if you want to follow this game and see my future games go on Gamejolt or Itch and follow me there. Links are bellow.

https://gamejolt.com/games/Fling/387953
https://itch.io/t/366505/fling-platforming-with-grappling-hook-and-pixelated-art-style
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2019, 10:57:16 AM »

Looks good! Is there a playable build? I'm following
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2019, 12:50:31 PM »

Looks good! Is there a playable build? I'm following

Thanks!
Yes, there is a playable build, but it's only available for testers. If you want to test the game just PM me or send me an email.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2019, 09:03:03 AM »

Hi everyone!

Fling will be ready for release in the very near future (next week, hopefully). There's a lot of stuff that I still have to test and make ready for that to happen.
Fling will be available as a web game so you will be able to play it pretty easily.

Meanwhile, I had time to implement one more feature into the game.

And that is Endless mode.
It adds a whole new pacing to the game and a lot of replayability.



Here's some showcase of how this mode works behind the scenes.




If you want to follow this game and see my future games go on Gamejolt or Itch and follow me there. Links are bellow.

https://gamejolt.com/games/Fling/387953
https://itch.io/t/366505/fling-platforming-with-grappling-hook-and-pixelated-art-style

Also, you can sign up for my newsletter here:  https://bit.ly/2VZmQdk
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2019, 08:35:00 AM »

Hi everyone!

I made a Trailer for Fling showcasing all the different mechanics in the game.
This is the first trailer I've made for one my games so any feedback is welcome!

Check it out!



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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2019, 07:50:51 AM »

Hello everyone!

Fling is finally done and it's released on GameJolt and Itch (for now).
Here's the link so you can try it out:

https://gamejolt.com/games/Fling/387953
https://alienplay.itch.io/fling

GameJolt version has a highscore table implemented for Endless mode. My best score is 15. Try to beat it!

Fling will be also released on Armor Games, Kongregate and Newgrounds.

Hope you'll enjoy the game :D
Let me know what you think!
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2019, 11:03:23 PM »

Hey everyone!

The game had great reception so far, so I decided to bring it over to game portals specifically targeted towards web games.
For now it's released on

Kongregate https://www.kongregate.com/games/Alienplay/fling and
Newgrounds https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/725915

On Newgrounds you have a chance to win 3 medals in total, and both on Newgrounds and Kongregate you can compete for the best score on leaderboards with your friends.

Fling is set to be released on Armor Games as well on 18th of February.

If you're active member of any of these portals come by, play and rate Fling.
I really appreciate your feedback!
Thanks! :D
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2019, 11:46:06 PM »

Hey everyone!

I just wanted to say thank you to all of you who read my devlogs here on TIG.
I really appreciate your feedback and support during development. It really helps a lot.

I also want to announce that I'll start working on my new game. I'm still not sure what it is going to be about, but I'll definitely
continue doing these devlogs for that game as well.

I'll upload one more devlog about Fling with my stats from all the different platforms and some of my thoughts on those platforms.

Thanks again and have a great week!
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2019, 12:55:48 PM »

Hello everyone!

Fling has been released more than a month ago so I decided to share some of my stats from different platforms and my experience publishing there in the format of a postmortem.

First of all, here is some basic info about Fling:
- I started working on it on 28th of December 2018
- I started doing devlogs on GameJolt on 1st of January 2019
- Game was released at different times on different game portals, but first public version was out on 28th of January 2019 on Itch & GameJolt

Based on feedback I got from all different game portals I published Fling on I drew the following conclusions:

What went right?

One month deadline
I'm really happy that I managed to stick to my original 1 month deadline for main part of my project, I needed some more time to properly integrate Kongregate, Newgrounds and GameJolt APIs, but at the end it was very close.
This goal helped me keep my project in scope and it gave me the feeling that everything will be worth it in the end.
I think that one or one and a half months is ideal time span for the types of project that I’m currently focusing on so I’ll keep trying to stick to this schedule for my future projects as well.

I improved as a game designer
As my first larger project it was pretty scary to even start making Fling. I think the thing that really helped me out with that is prototyping my ideas before committing to project.
Prototyping is something that I think most game devs know they should do (myself included), but we never actually do it.
It’s easy to think that the first idea you get is the best one, but in my experience that can’t be further from the truth.

My level design process
My previous games were either one level or endless runner types of games, so figuring out how to do level design was big part of this project.
Luckily, Mark Brown from Game Maker’s Toolkit made some awesome videos on this subject. Here are the ones that helped me out:
- 4-step Level Design of Super Mario 3D World
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These two videos were great food for thought, especially the first one with its 4 step “formula”.
For my game, I wrote down in notepad all of the game mechanics that came to my mind that can synergize well with Fling’s main mechanic, which is traversing environment using only your grappling hook.
Some of the ideas that I wrote down were good, some of them weren’t, but the most important thing is to keep thinking and keep brainstorming, some cool ideas will come eventually.
After doing this I decided that I wanted to make 30 levels for Fling. So, in order to make the things easier for me I broke that down into sections made up of 5 levels each.
Every section introduced one new game mechanic and my idea was that this will help players to master the grappling hook mechanic over the course of the game (it seems like I didn’t managed to achieve this, but hey, I tried).
In order to get inspiration for my levels I first came up with the name for the each level. This is something I heard that Tim Ruswick, from Game Dev Underground, uses in his games, and it worked quite well for me so I’d definitely recommend it.

Version control
There’s not to much to talk about here. I knew that I should use some sort of version control for my projects in case that something goes wrong, but this was my first time doing it.
It helped me out a lot, especially later on when I had different versions of Fling for different game portals and with different APIs integrated.

Promotion/marketing
This one was big for me. I didn’t actually count how much time I spent on promotion/marketing but I think it took more than 30% of the development time.
First off, I started my devlog page on GameJolt. After a couple of days I realized that GameJolt promotes your page more if you do devlogs regularly, that helped me to reach around 300 views on my page before I even published the game. Besides that I also got some followers on GameJolt which will help me with my long term goals.
Besides that, I also figured I’d publish my devlogs on Itch Community Forum. I’m not sure if this had any substantial impact but in the end I reached around 100-200 views on Itch before publishing.
The one thing that surprised me the most was that forums are great way to reach people that can help you throughout development. In my case, I was active on TIG. On there I reached around 800-900 views before publishing Fling and I think it played a big role in how successful my game was.
So, what is the main takeaway here? Start promoting / marketing early. It doesn’t have to be anything more sophisticated that a few GIFs here and there (at least in the beginning). The point it to make people aware and interested in your game.


What went wrong?

Tutorial
Tutorial is probably the most important part of your game. It teaches player how things work inside your game and it sets the expectations for the whole experience.
If your tutorial is frustrating people will most likely think that your whole game will be the same and they will most likely give up before they even learned how to play.
I managed to make Fling’s tutorial hard for a lot of players. It was interactive so the problem wasn’t that people didn’t want to read through big paragraphs of text (like you do now :D ), the problem was that I layed out first level incorrectly which, as a result, made it harder for players to reach the end.
The second part of the tutorial was at the level 4. Here, I tried to teach players how to swing. My mistake here is that I didn’t give players proper feedback on how many times they need to swing and that made the experience frustrating for some players.
This could have been easily fixed just by putting a counter that displays the number of swings you have left before completing a level.
Just make the tutorials as easy as possible to follow, make them and optimize them for completely new players. People who have never seen your game. Also, give players proper feedback because that’s one of the reasons games are fun in the first place.
Players want to see when they make some progress so make sure they know how far they’ve come.

Music
There’s not too much to talk about here. First off, I tried using Bosca Ceoil and I couldn’t make anything good enough. Then I tried drumbit (online tool for music creation) and I managed to put together something OK.
I didn’t enjoy this process at all and I’m pretty terrible at making music so the thing I’d do differently next time is I wouldn’t make music myself.
There are a lot of free resources online to find awesome pieces of music for any type of game. For my next project I decided to try out Jukedeck and it already sounds a lot better and way less repetitive.

Level design mistakes
As I said previously level design was something I was overwhelmed by, so it comes as no surprise that I made a lot of mistakes along the way. Some people thought levels were designed well and some people didn’t share the same opinion. Which is fine. I can’t cater to everyone.
However, I think that I can improve my level design technique a lot for my next game. Will definitely let you know how that goes once that game is done.

Problems with Unity WebGL
The last problem I’d like to mention here is Unity’s WebGL. It doesn’t work all that well in my opinion.
It takes a lot of time to export, around 10-15 minutes in my experience which is a lot more than it does for Android or Windows (around 1 minute). Obviously, this makes it difficult for me to update my game when I have different versions of it for different game portals.
Also, loading takes 10-20 seconds and it always seems like it freezes at 90%.

However, Unity seems to be looking more into HTML technology lately with their preview package called Unity Tiny and option to export to WebGL using Web Assembly standard. So hopefully these issues will be less and less noticeable over time. We’ll see.


Stats (3/7/2019)
Armor Games: 38K plays         (68/100)
Newgrounds: 3.7K plays         (3.42/5)
Kongregate: 5.2K plays         (3.1/5)
GameJolt: 700 plays, 1.5K views      (95% positive)
Itch: 1.1K views            (4.4/5)
Game Distribution: 200 plays

Here are some of my thoughts and opinions on platforms listed above.
Armor Games
Where to even start here. Armor Games was obviously a huge part of this project and most of the plays Fling got were from their web portal.
They are very supportive of indie game developers and even though they handpick games that will appear on their website they are not afraid to take chances with more experimental games.
Besides promotional benefits they also offer various financial benefits as well. In my case that was $200 for a branded non-exclusive license, but I’ve seen some games go for more than that. It depends a lot on a type of game how much they think it’s going to be successful.

Newgrounds
Newgrounds is awesome web games portal and as one of the first big ones they had a lot of time to perfect their trade.
On Newgrounds your game is almost guaranteed to reach a few hundred people. This might not seem like a lot but trust me, the feedback you get from these players can really go a long way.
So, why am I mentioning this here and I didn’t say the same for Armor Games.
Well, as I said Armor Games handpicks their games and if you’re just starting out you probably won’t be able to make your game good enough for Armor Games (like one of my previous titles).
On the other hand Newgrounds lets you publish whatever you want on their platform. This can help you gain a lot of valuable experience as a newcomer.
To promote you game Newgrounds has systems like their P-Bot’s Daily Picks. Basically this bot picks 5 games/movies every day and places them on the side of the front page.
As you’ve might guessed this can help a lot, and it did with Fling. It was placed second on the day it launched.
Also, Newgrounds offers their API that includes medals and leaderboards as well as some other stuff. This can help you extend the length of your game and offer additional challenges for some of your players.

Kongregate
Kongregate is another giant of web games industry. They offer different ways to promote and monetize your games.
On Kongregate you earn ad revenue from your games and you can increase your slice of the pie by integrating their API or by making your game exclusive to their website. Anyhow, their CPMs are quite good so ads can be a nice source of revenue.
Another great thing about Kongregate is that they hold monthly contests. These contests reward 15 best games of the month with certain amount of money.
Surprisingly, Fling won 15th place for the February and the prize for this spot is $250. Of course if you get higher on the list you can earn more than that. Anyways, I’m really happy for this result.

GameJolt
GameJolt is platform that doesn't exclusively focuses on web games but it’s still a viable option.
Devlogs I wrote here helped me get some followers for Fling early on and it definitely helped me with launch.
It’s also good that they give you option to integrate their API into your game and reward your players with medals (or, I think they call them trophies on there) and spots on leaderboards.

Itch
Itch is pretty similar to GameJolt. It doesn’t offer API integration (as far as I know) but I think they offer you more ways for your game to get discovered.
It didn't do all that much for me in this instance but like GameJolt they offer people a way to follow you and Itch also has a quite big Youtuber community and both of those things will help me with my long term goals so I’ll keep publishing my future games there.

Game Distribution
Huh, I was honestly very disappointed to see that Fling did this bad on GD. They have very bad CPMs, in my experience, and their platform started getting cluttered with simple, mostly low quality and low effort games which definitely won’t help your game get discovered.
So in the end I decided to stop using GD altogether for my future games.

In the end I wouldn't call Fling a success but it wasn't a failure neither. It was my first larger project that I’ve actually taken seriously and I learned a lot in the process of making it.
This was also my first time writing postmortem for one of my projects so I hope it's informative and helpful. Smiley
If you read through this whole postmortem you deserve a medal for your efforts. XD
Thank you so much for reading!

If you have any feedback regarding my writing skills you’re welcome to let me know. Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2019, 08:50:48 PM »

Always enjoy a good postmortem. Thanks for sharing!

Glad to see someone else finding success on Gamejolt. I really like the platform and I seemingly get a lot of views and follows, but I never hear anyone talk about so I was doubting the numbers.

Do you have any plans to bring Fling to mobile?
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2019, 09:56:18 PM »

Always enjoy a good postmortem. Thanks for sharing!

Glad to see someone else finding success on Gamejolt. I really like the platform and I seemingly get a lot of views and follows, but I never hear anyone talk about so I was doubting the numbers.

Do you have any plans to bring Fling to mobile?

Thanks for reading my postmortem. I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

I first heard about GameJolt in SpeedTutor's

video. It seemed like it worked for him but I couldn't find anyone else recommending it so I was suspicious at first but I'm glad I gave it a shot in the end.

I actually thought about bringing Fling to mobile but I've published 3 games on Google Play already and I didn't get any results from that. I mean one of them started getting like 1-2 downloads a day after year of nothing (when ASO started figuring out for which keywords to recommend my game).
To be fair I didn't do any promotion for those games and they aren't all that good quality but still I think mobile just won't be a good time investment at the moment.

If you want to check out those games here's the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Alienplay
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