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[Sik]

who the fuck wants to beta test an operating system for free

Ask people who upgrade Ubuntu the day the new version comes out...

[Boreal]

who the fuck wants to beta test an operating system for free

Ask people who upgrade Ubuntu the day the new version comes out...

In the case of standard-release Linux distributions there's generally a long chain of development and beta versions before the stable release.  So even if you're able to upgrade monthly you can do it and be ensured that you're getting a production-ready OS.  Plus these incremental upgrades in packages are much different than adding hundreds of features per release.

Now, distributions such as Arch are another beast entirely, but due to the rolling release model you can simply roll back any misbehaving packages to a stable version while keeping the stable, bleeding-edge stuff.

[Sik]

The problem is that with Ubuntu it's a bad idea to upgrade the moment the upgrade comes out because they tend to be buggy as hell (they focus more on meeting the artificial deadline than fixing what's there). You should wait one or two months before upgrading so they fix all the new bugs they just introduced.

[Boreal]

The problem is that with Ubuntu it's a bad idea to upgrade the moment the upgrade comes out because they tend to be buggy as hell (they focus more on meeting the artificial deadline than fixing what's there). You should wait one or two months before upgrading so they fix all the new bugs they just introduced.

Yeah, I'd much rather use a rolling-release distro like Arch where it's really easy to just roll back a package if it's too unstable.  Of course, you get problems when you do a full system update less than a couple times a month or so because of ridiculous package conflicts and interconnections.

[Richard Kain]

The problem is that with Ubuntu it's a bad idea to upgrade the moment the upgrade comes out because they tend to be buggy as hell (they focus more on meeting the artificial deadline than fixing what's there). You should wait one or two months before upgrading so they fix all the new bugs they just introduced.

This is no different from Windows releases. Except of course for the fact that you have to pay for them. Also, replace "months" with "years."

I'm not trying to defend Ubuntu, or their buggy updates. But it is generally easier to cut some slack when you aren't spending money.

I still favor OS X for operating systems. Mac maybe overpriced, but they do at least give you some polish and production value for your money.

[Alevice]

wow new start menu looks like ass. given i have an xp desktop at work, i truly miss the program menu and not the program tree within the start menu. i hate the flat rectangle with contrasting colors. looks good for a website on occasions, but looks like ass for a general purpose ui.

[jiitype]

XP master race

[Julien]

Xbox -> Xbox 360 -> Xbox One
Windows 7 -> Windows 8 -> Windows 10

Lol

Anyway, doesn't seems to be a revolution.

And finally, multiple desktops...

[Nillo]

I'm curious if this means they're skipping the good Windows release this time and going straight to the next bad release. Windows has always been like a pendulum, swinging between being trash and being excellent with every new version.

[Gtoknu]

It seems Microsoft is trying to catch-up what they lost to Ubuntu and Mac in the last release.

[Netsu]

I really like the directon Microsoft has taken recently in regards to visual design with Win 8 and 10.
But other than that I still remember Win 98 as being the best, it was simply the fastest one I knew.

I will probably only upgrage my Windows 7 when it starts running windows apps worse than Linux+Wine do, since I can no longer get free OSes from my univeristy.

[Sik]

This is no different from Windows releases. Except of course for the fact that you have to pay for them. Also, replace "months" with "years."

I'm not trying to defend Ubuntu, or their buggy updates. But it is generally easier to cut some slack when you aren't spending money.

Maybe, but Windows has the advantage that pretty much everybody supports it. Can't say the same about Ubuntu, where support is hit and miss (and so the likelihood of your install breaking are much higher). Though I guess it's skewed by the fact that the OS pretty much tells you to update the very day that update comes out, while with Windows you have to hunt it down so you may forget about it until the problems are ironed out.

But yeah, I remember Vista suffering from this heavily. One of the biggest reasons it failed to gain traction was that drivers for it were generally broken or inefficient (especially with the important kernel architecture change), so people skipped on it because it was nearly unusable. By the time the issue got solved Windows 7 was coming out so everybody went onto that instead (leaving XP on the low-end systems).

[Blademasterbobo]

[Conker534]

never gonna stop using win 7 at this rate

[s0]

One of the biggest reasons it failed to gain traction was that drivers for it were generally broken or inefficient (especially with the important kernel architecture change), so people skipped on it because it was nearly unusable. By the time the issue got solved Windows 7 was coming out so everybody went onto that instead (leaving XP on the low-end systems).

i only switched from XP to 7 like 2 years ago

[FARTRON]

missed chance for to call it windows ix, undermine 2 apple trademarks at once

[jolene]

hmm im using 8.1 n its nice. only thing i can pay atention to in that video is how the taskbar is still aero and not metro smh.

[baconman]

Saw the Japanese version of this a few days ago. Supposedly, it's a FREE UPGRADE TO Win 8. Changing apps to function like Windows is a good thing, but I can only think of one use for multiple desktops, and it's just the wrong stuff at work/school.

Now... if they tie that 'swap program' function to the Win key (tap/hold between that and Start menu), that'd be the coolest.

It's all an experiment to evolve Windows, and eventually it's gonna be something cool. The concept of the "5 year shelf life" needs to die in a fire, though. And not just in OS versions, either.

[Sik]

That one makes even more sense than the autocomplete stuff. Way a lot more of sense. No wonder, though they could have just used a different internal number really. (I don't think there's a function like that on the Windows API though...) (EDIT: Java does!)

But yeah, reminds me how all the Opera versions from 10 onward still report themselves as 9 in the user agent (and then add the real version later), to work around scripts that stupidly assume the major version is a single digit.

[Conker534]

It had social media apps built in how fucking stupid