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[Alevice]

welp, looks like we just had two brexits in a row

[starsrift]

btw i think boris johnson might have worse hair than trump, but i am not entirely decided yet.

Boris Johnson's hair looks pretty good when it's Owen Wilson wearing it.
I mean, I don't think the hair is the problem, exactly.

Also, seems legit AF

[Superb Joe]

if you want more prescient old british comedy shows just watch absolutely any episode of The New Statesman

[starsrift]

if you want more prescient old british comedy shows just watch absolutely any episode of The New Statesman

As a Canadian, I generally appreciate all British comedy. Enough shared culture to acquire all of the subtext, yet enough separation to bear none of the sting of the cutting satire.

[Superb Joe]

if you want more prescient old british comedy shows just watch absolutely any episode of The New Statesman

As a Canadian, I generally appreciate all British comedy. Enough shared culture to acquire all of the subtext, yet enough separation to bear none of the sting of the cutting satire.

[starsrift]

Precisely.

[s0]

Many of the reports of incidents seem to show the mistaken belief that EU citizens living in the UK will be forced to leave the country as a result of the referendum result, with instances reported of a Polish woman being told to get off a bus and “get packing”, of a Polish man being told at an airport that he “shouldn’t still be here, that we had voted to be rid of people like him”, of a Polish coffee shop worker being jeered at and told “you’re going home now” and of Polish children at a primary school crying because they were scared of getting deported from Britain.

[Capntastic]

how dare you say it's got anything to do with xenophobia

It's sovereignty

[zilluss]

Who argued xenophobia didn't factor into leave votes? And frankly your sarcasm doesn't invalidate the sovereignity argument.

I highly doubt that over 50% of the population are xenophobic assholes. "Xenophobia" on such a large scale is a symptom, not the cause.

Also about the sovereignity thing:
http://static.presspublica.pl/red/rp/pdf/DokumentUE.pdf

Say hello to the European army protecting the European border.

[Kinaetron]

Who argued xenophobia didn't factor into leave votes? And frankly your sarcasm doesn't invalidate the sovereignity argument.

I highly doubt that over 50% of the population are xenophobic assholes. "Xenophobia" on such a large scale is a symptom, not the cause.

Also about the sovereignity thing:
http://static.presspublica.pl/red/rp/pdf/DokumentUE.pdf

Say hello to the European army protecting the European border.

Of course not half the country isn't xenophobic, but that's exactly where this campaign came from, it was started by UKIP who are and they've been legitimatimazed and that's incredibly shitty.

[Cobralad]

they are not xenophobic, black people would actually benefit from permanent employemnt.

[s0]

Tbh i feel a smug satisfaction that the xenophobes didnt even get what they wanted.

This referendum was bad for democracy not because people voted "wrong" but because seemingly many ppl voted for completely bullshit reasons and many who voted leave didn't even know what they were voting for.

[Kinaetron]

Tbh i feel a smug satisfaction that the xenophobes didnt even get what they wanted.

This referendum was bad for democracy not because people voted "wrong" but because seemingly many ppl voted for completely bullshit reasons and many who voted leave didn't even know what they were voting for.

I still stand that by the fact they did vote wrong. But the thought of the UK still having to keep free movement after all of this is pretty damn funny and I totally see that happening because the EU does not look like it will budge on their terms.

[motorherp]

I was stopped in the street on my way to work yesterday by an old man with the morning news paper in his hands who started angrily shouting at me "This is bullshit, they're still going to be letting 'them' into the country" and so on after clearly having just read the report that free movement of labour would still be in effect.  That really summed the whole thing up for me.

[mks]

[Nillo]

[Superb Joe]

I was stopped in the street on my way to work yesterday by an old man with the morning news paper in his hands who started angrily shouting at me "This is bullshit, they're still going to be letting 'them' into the country" and so on after clearly having just read the report that free movement of labour would still be in effect.  That really summed the whole thing up for me.

science is about to get massively Owned as under any form of eea deal we would have to buy back in to horizon 2020 like the swiss did (who saw a ~40% drop in grant approvals instantly) without any kind of say in developing research topics, or we could not buy back in and suffer an immediate loss of >10% of all uk science funding and an absurd brain drain. an eea deal not only means accepting what the curmudgeonly racists want least (freedom of movement) but also means we pay in exactly what we do now, don't get the rebate, don't get the benefits we do currently, and additionally have to rely on iceland, norway, and liechtenstein ratifying new eu legislations, which often takes them 12-24 months, which drives business to the eu instead or forces eea companies to takeover an existing eu company to continue trading as normal. the eu itself will relocate its financial centre to frankfurt and will massively slash our tax base and lead to thousands of job losses, and at best we will be able to negotiate a deal that is exactly what we have now but worse in every way but we might, if we're lucky, keep financial passporting after 2 years of everyone peeing and pooping into our latrine, so we can tell them to come on in the water's lovely.

and we've done all this for the golden chalice of negotiating trade deals, which we haven't done in 40 years, aren't equipped to do, and will have to hire >>> hundreds of migrants <<< to do it for us, a process that takes years, in the midst of a desperately bad recession, where we will otherwise fall back on insanely bad wto tarriffs.

everything owns

[Kinaetron]

Welp that's one major thing more  we're screwed on. 

[s0]

I was stopped in the street on my way to work yesterday by an old man with the morning news paper in his hands who started angrily shouting at me "This is bullshit, they're still going to be letting 'them' into the country" and so on after clearly having just read the report that free movement of labour would still be in effect.  That really summed the whole thing up for me.

science is about to get massively Owned as under any form of eea deal we would have to buy back in to horizon 2020 like the swiss did (who saw a ~40% drop in grant approvals instantly) without any kind of say in developing research topics, or we could not buy back in and suffer an immediate loss of >10% of all uk science funding and an absurd brain drain. an eea deal not only means accepting what the curmudgeonly racists want least (freedom of movement) but also means we pay in exactly what we do now, don't get the rebate, don't get the benefits we do currently, and additionally have to rely on iceland, norway, and liechtenstein ratifying new eu legislations, which often takes them 12-24 months, which drives business to the eu instead or forces eea companies to takeover an existing eu company to continue trading as normal. the eu itself will relocate its financial centre to frankfurt and will massively slash our tax base and lead to thousands of job losses, and at best we will be able to negotiate a deal that is exactly what we have now but worse in every way but we might, if we're lucky, keep financial passporting after 2 years of everyone peeing and pooping into our latrine, so we can tell them to come on in the water's lovely.

and we've done all this for the golden chalice of negotiating trade deals, which we haven't done in 40 years, aren't equipped to do, and will have to hire >>> hundreds of migrants <<< to do it for us, a process that takes years, in the midst of a desperately bad recession, where we will otherwise fall back on insanely bad wto tarriffs.

everything owns

lol who cares about any of that shit? something something brussels bureaucrats immigrants sovereignty.

[Schoq]

stop the botes