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« Reply #420 on: September 18, 2008, 02:58:48 PM »

You know, I just played this online properly for the first time (Tried once on b11, and had a number of connection problems)! Figured I'd try the competition version, and it worked really nice. Not much lag, and I kind of liked the pared-down nature of the characters.

I was also a little surprised that the in-game music I did wasn't actually as annoying as I thought it might be. The game could probably use some variety, though. MedO, if I did another couple, could you add the ability to choose between them in the options menu?
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« Reply #421 on: September 18, 2008, 03:03:09 PM »

Reporting server lockup, it lasted a lot longer than b15 though.

Edit: It unfroze, however it booted everyone off the server.  Shocked

Edit2: Keeps freezing every now and then.


Rolling back to b14 until the netcode is fixed again.  Tongue
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« Reply #422 on: September 18, 2008, 10:40:36 PM »

I wish someone would keep an european server hosted.

US servers are real laggy for me.
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« Reply #423 on: September 18, 2008, 11:08:14 PM »

Well, technically speaking this is very solid behaviour, as long as noone got a networking error Grin

I know this kind of behaviour is not how the game should ideally react, but it's certainly less buggy than before (in the same situation with b14, half of the people would probably have dropped out with Unexpected Data - this is actually preferrable but buggy behaviour for TCP). I didn't think everyone would be disconnected though. It will probably get a lot better once I rewrite the "full update"-code and do some other changes so that the game will use far less bandwidth, especially when a player joins. Also, I should probably look into UDP for all non-critical messages, and maybe change the protocol so that most or all messages are non-critical. That would solve the freezing completely and have some other positive side effects.

Vaati: There are some things I'm very interested to learn to better understand why this happened:
How many people are on your server when it freezes / when it kicks them all (approximately of course)? Did that happen every time the server froze? How much upstream bandwidth do you have? How is your server connected to the internet / your router?
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« Reply #424 on: September 18, 2008, 11:38:12 PM »

VG Cats linked to Gang Garrison 2! They say it's better than the game of Uwe Boll's forthcoming movie.

http://www.vgcats.com/index.php#sept-17-08
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« Reply #425 on: September 19, 2008, 01:45:09 AM »

Well, technically speaking this is very solid behaviour, as long as noone got a networking error Grin

I know this kind of behaviour is not how the game should ideally react, but it's certainly less buggy than before (in the same situation with b14, half of the people would probably have dropped out with Unexpected Data - this is actually preferrable but buggy behaviour for TCP). I didn't think everyone would be disconnected though. It will probably get a lot better once I rewrite the "full update"-code and do some other changes so that the game will use far less bandwidth, especially when a player joins. Also, I should probably look into UDP for all non-critical messages, and maybe change the protocol so that most or all messages are non-critical. That would solve the freezing completely and have some other positive side effects.

Vaati: There are some things I'm very interested to learn to better understand why this happened:
How many people are on your server when it freezes / when it kicks them all (approximately of course)? Did that happen every time the server froze? How much upstream bandwidth do you have? How is your server connected to the internet / your router?

Around 10-15 people is when the first freeze occurs however after that and one other time it was considerably less than that. At one point it completely froze and after 10 minutes I forced the client to close, so it's not consistant in becoming responsive again.

Bandwidth:

Apprx. 500-600 KB/s

Server is connected via box=>router=>modem=>net by ethernet wire, game port (or ports when I run 2-3 servers) is completely open on both TCP and UDP. There's absolutely nothing blocking the game ports.

There's several computers connected to the modem both wired and wirelessly but most of the time it's just my main and the server box.

Specs on the box are (old box to test server related things):
x2 Pentium(R) D 3.0 Ghz
2 GB RAM
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« Reply #426 on: September 19, 2008, 02:18:09 AM »

With that kind of connection this can only be a bug still in the net code, there's no way 15 people on the server could cause nearly enough data to be sent to clog that connection. This time, I'll make sure to remove any and all client-dependent networking code that might block.
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« Reply #427 on: September 19, 2008, 03:00:46 AM »

Whoa, a plug from VGCats!  Good work GG2 team :D
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« Reply #428 on: September 19, 2008, 03:18:12 AM »

VG Cats linked to Gang Garrison 2! They say it's better than the game of Uwe Boll's forthcoming movie

http://www.vgcats.com/index.php#sept-17-08

Hey cool! Although I must admit, that doesn't seem like a very hard task lol.

Uwe Boll tries far too hard  Lips Sealed


Big congrats to the official GG2 devs!  Smiley
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« Reply #429 on: September 19, 2008, 04:14:01 AM »

This game is becoming a hit Grin
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« Reply #430 on: September 19, 2008, 06:47:04 AM »

Updatan gaems. I just threw Lvl 2 sentry animations and shiz' together.


Tell me what you think. I got kinda bored in the whilst making this.

Here is the raw file:


EDIT: resizing made it look all wonky.
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« Reply #431 on: September 19, 2008, 06:52:50 AM »

Updatan gaems. I just threw Lvl 2 sentry animations and shiz' together.


Tell me what you think. I got kinda bored in the whilst making this.

Here is the raw file:


EDIT: resizing made it look all wonky.

that's amazing Grin
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« Reply #432 on: September 19, 2008, 07:03:14 AM »

Updatan gaems. I just threw Lvl 2 sentry animations and shiz' together.


Tell me what you think. I got kinda bored in the whilst making this.

Here is the raw file:


EDIT: resizing made it look all wonky.

It looks really good, although seeing it animated would probably help.
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« Reply #433 on: September 19, 2008, 07:10:05 AM »

I have no clue what it looks like animated. Could be really bad.
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« Reply #434 on: September 19, 2008, 07:50:43 AM »

I'll take care of that, will post it soon

EDIT:


BUILDING A SENTRY HERE

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« Reply #435 on: September 19, 2008, 08:29:34 AM »

So awesome. Seriously.
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« Reply #436 on: September 19, 2008, 08:42:30 AM »

*checkout*

I want to finally get the networking working correctly.

I'll take care of that, will post it soon

EDIT:


BUILDING A SENTRY HERE

Looks great imo, nice work.
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« Reply #437 on: September 19, 2008, 08:43:36 AM »

I'll take care of that, will post it soon

EDIT:


BUILDING A SENTRY HERE



AWESOME!  Grin
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« Reply #438 on: September 19, 2008, 08:51:27 AM »

Maybe tad fast.

Thanks for doing the animation.
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« Reply #439 on: September 19, 2008, 09:06:05 AM »

Maybe tad fast.

Thanks for doing the animation.

the frame-rate can be easily changed in game maker, so thats not a big problem. Smiley

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