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[FK in the Coffee]

Well, this is going to be a nightmare for everyone involved.

[Capntastic]

I can't think of a reason anyone would think this was a good idea beyond like, absolute filthy xenophobia

[FK in the Coffee]

the power of democracy

[zadokallen]

Shit. I said earlier it would be a laugh if it happened because of general paradoxical stupidity of the whole thing, but now that it actually happened I simply can`t believe it.

It`s terrifying how easily brainwashed people are. And not even stereotypical born`n bred Ingerland! working class or staunch Torry toffs... My landlady, for example, who`s an all round great girl, yet went and voted out. Some of second-generation immigrants I know who voted out. Mind boggling.

[voidSkipper]

I often find myself saying this but I don't understand why there should ever be a conscience vote by laypeople regarding an economic issue that is beyond their comprehension.

I imagine being an economist to be the most frustrating job in the world, because you spend most of your life determining the correct course of action and then watching people who couldn't manage the bank in a game of monopoly do the exact opposite.

It's not just limited to economics, either. We have conscience votes (be it in parliment or in public) on things such as GMOs, whether certain drugs (recreational or pharmaceutical) are dangerous enough to be outlawed, how best to implement public infrastructure, whether "GMO"s should be banned, and the like. In all of these cases, it's either politicians (usually only qualfied in politics and perhaps business) or your average Joe Six-tooth, who get to decide on these matters. You may as well just flip a damn coin for all the sense it makes.

On subjective matters, I can completely understand that it is important to hear the voice of either the public or its representatives to reach moral consensus. But for all the other shit, where people spend their lives becoming experts in it only to have their reasoned judgement be thrown out the window purely because the other option is worth more votes or tugs more heartstrings when they put violin music behind it on A Current Affair? Fuck that. I'd rather live in a technocracy.

My opinion on the majority of these matters is worth precisely nothing. I have no idea why I should have the right to vote on them.

[FK in the Coffee]

Well, it happened. Cameron resigned.

[Nillo]

I can't think of a reason anyone would think this was a good idea beyond like, absolute filthy xenophobia

You think there's no inherent value in sovereignty at all - a value that perhaps cannot be measured in money? It's all about the economy for you guys?

[Superb Joe]

i'm not sure what's the most ironic way to say fuck this stupid country

[FK in the Coffee]

but wait
that's not all

[Capntastic]

I can't think of a reason anyone would think this was a good idea beyond like, absolute filthy xenophobia

You think there's no inherent value in sovereignty at all - a value that perhaps cannot be measured in money? It's all about the economy for you guys?

I didn't even mention "the economy"

[Capntastic]

i'm not sure what's the most ironic way to say fuck this stupid country

Just be honest

[FK in the Coffee]

I can't think of a reason anyone would think this was a good idea beyond like, absolute filthy xenophobia

You think there's no inherent value in sovereignty at all - a value that perhaps cannot be measured in money? It's all about the economy for you guys?

Do you honestly believe this going to be a net positive thing for the UK

[fergie77]

Totally can't believe it, the split across the nation is crazy. If Scotland doesn't get another referendum I'm leaving. The voting system is so broken.

[Capntastic]

Like there's a case for self-governance to be made but let's be clear:  The idea that ~sovereignty~ is some honorable mystic ideal that outshines any other day to day concern is how you end up with the Malheur sanctuary standoff:  People willing to burn everything to the ground in the name of "freedom" while actually drastically reducing their opportunities in life.

[Nillo]

Do you honestly believe this going to be a net positive thing for the UK

I don't. I actually would have voted to Remain, if I was in the UK.

But you have to realize that implying 50% of the population are filthy racists with mud for brains won't convince them to see the error of their ways. We tried that with the Sweden Democrats and it was a terrible idea.

[FK in the Coffee]

Cameron may have made one of the biggest blunders of the 21st century

[mks]

[Capntastic]

I specifically used the word xenophobia because of the broader UK dislike of being part of Europe rather than open racism, so I dunno why you feel the need to construe my point as saying they have "mud for brains".  You're reading a lot into what I say and then fighting a windmill.

[Superb Joe]

i can do my phd in canada and get paid twice as much as in the uk. or i can do it in the uk and also have to get a retail job to sponsor a visa for my foreign wife that i wouldnt have to do if i were an eu citizen or from any other country on earth except the uk: lol

[Superb Joe]

the architects of this policy are definitely NOT racist its just a coincidence that it is applied to a majority of non whites