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I also find it unclear what the motivations would be. because duuuuuuuuuuude, it'd be star trek irl!!!!!! that literally seems to be the motivation for most ppl |
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2016, 05:21:29 AM » |
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I always thought Musk was about sustainability. I really don't understand his desire to advance engineering on chemical rockets while the smart boys are redefining physics. Not that the work is without value, but it seems like a lot of waste to an ultimately valueless endeavor.
If he was talking about terraforming Mars by doing things like finding water comets to bomb Mars with, that'd seem more sensible to me. Sending people there seems like just so much grandstanding.
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2016, 07:30:24 AM » |
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as hes stated repeatedly, the purpose is to drive innovation and competition in this arena in order to create a realistic path to these goals. he's dead-serious about his own plans and the ability to attain them, but the principle reason is that *nobody else has done anything in decades*. yet now in the span of 10 years, space x has not only fundamentally revolutionized orbital launch tech reducing the cost by orders of magnitude, but also created a popular space race between blue origin, nasa, planetary resources and others. governments that previously were slashing space budgets are now guaranteeing long term mars missions and beyond. from pure force of will he's revitalized popular interest in space exploration.
so yeah sign me the fuck up. whether its drinking plastic bulbs of champaign on some silly space cruise ship for silicon valley tools or slowly starving to death during early subsistence farming mars colonization, its time to get humans out of the damn nest.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2016, 07:35:07 AM » |
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unless I missed something we didn't even get biosphere 2 to work yet so I dunno how ppl think doing the same thing on a different planet or on a space station is gonna be a success
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2016, 09:04:28 AM » |
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as hes stated repeatedly, the purpose is to drive innovation and competition in this arena in order to create a realistic path to these goals. he's dead-serious about his own plans and the ability to attain them, but the principle reason is that *nobody else has done anything in decades*.
Yeah but the real reason nobody's bothered to do anything is not because of finance or engineering or anything like that, but because the physicists are redefining physics. Just in the last fifteen years, the future of general relativity has gone to "Grand Unified Theory of Relativity" to "Quantum Gravity". Experiments like CERN are revolutionizing the science behind everything extraplanetary. If impatient guys like Musk want to advance old tech like methane-fueled rockets -- hey, there's nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure it can turn out useful somewhere, but it's not the future. Neither is getting people to sit and attempt to colonize a barren, oxygenless wasteland where your survival depends on each successive shipment of supplies. |
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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2016, 10:09:49 AM » |
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unless I missed something we didn't even get biosphere 2 to work yet so I dunno how ppl think doing the same thing on a different planet or on a space station is gonna be a success
you don't get it bro. don't think rationally about this. think about how awesome it would be if star trek was real. love lang and propser!!! |
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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2016, 10:53:19 AM » |
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If we can build sustainable colony on mars, fucked up earth will be a piece of walk once it happen to build small self sustainable place. I approve of mars FOR EARTH  |
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2016, 11:20:32 AM » |
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but then why go for mars first rather than just building that stuff on earth once the tech is developed? it doesnt make cents.
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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2016, 11:34:48 AM » |
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wanting star trek to be real is an emotional motivation as good as any tbh
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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2016, 11:35:52 AM » |
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Space is the place
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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2016, 12:04:17 PM » |
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it's just spelled "Sun Ra" without the hyphen btw. i am normally very tolerant when it comes to spelling, but this is serious.
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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2016, 12:08:04 PM » |
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but then why go for mars first rather than just building that stuff on earth once the tech is developed? it doesnt make cents.
Motivation, aim for harsher to create opportunities for softer, the same way war, porn, game and space create lateral innovation in domain they have no stake in. The idea is that looking further create opportunities for closer. |
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« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2016, 12:24:29 PM » |
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it's just spelled "Sun Ra" without the hyphen btw. i am normally very tolerant when it comes to spelling, but this is serious.
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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2016, 12:27:41 PM » |
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to be fair i think it was actually spelled "Sun-Ra" on some of his early album covers
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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2016, 12:45:48 PM » |
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"Amen-Ra", perhaps?
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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2016, 04:44:18 PM » |
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I don't think we will live in Mars. I don't see the point. But I believe that someday there will be turistic trips to Mars. There are already trips to the Moon. What the hell, if I was a billionaire I would pay for it  |
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« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2016, 06:45:45 PM » |
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What about Mars One? Is that a thing still? It's moving forward?
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