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[Blademasterbobo]

@pgil: if you kill all of the enemies in a room and nothing appears, or if there's just like one-four blocks in the middle of a room, try pushing the blocks.

[Sean A.]

You can get a ladder somewhere but you don't need it. Go back a couple rooms and there is a locked door you can go through. I was stuck there for a while too

Edit: that level 4 mini boss caught me totally off guard and I panicked and died.

[SirNiko]

This thread is blowing my mind. As a child I had Nintendo Power, so when I first played the game I already new about the old woman and where to find a ladder. It's so great to see people actually playing this through and discovering it all for the first time.

[Sean A.]

Yeah it gives a good sense of accomplishment when you find secrets on your own. Since I don't know where they are though I've been burning through bombs on anything mildly suspicious.

[dustin]

You can get a ladder somewhere but you don't need it. Go back a couple rooms and there is a locked door you can go through. I was stuck there for a while too

I am still confused about this, I used a key on that door that gets you to the middle of a room that has the map in it but you can't get off the "island".  I had to buy a key to unlock the other locked door.  I guess I just wasted a key on that first door?  It didn't seem to do anything at all

Edit: that level 4 mini boss caught me totally off guard and I panicked and died.

this happened to me first time to

Yeah it gives a good sense of accomplishment when you find secrets on your own. Since I don't know where they are though I've been burning through bombs on anything mildly suspicious.

So true I spent like 6 bombs on this large rock I thought was suspicious but didn't find anything . I've been bombing tons of stuff but still haven't found very many secrets.  I've been having fun finding overworld secrets.  I finally figured out there's more then one fairy pond which is nice for not having to trek back and forth on the map so much. statues have proved useful for me on the overworld I feel like the candle should be useful somewhere in the overworld but I haven't found it yet...

[noah!]

ZELDA GLITCH QUIZ TIME!!

What happens when you use a medicine at the exact time when you die? Which action takes priority?

Answer correctly and win the respect of your peers!


Anyway, givin' Level-9 another go. Picked up Key-Rex now so there ain't no stopping me now (btw, SirNiko, the reason I didn't pick it up before was because I thought, for some strange reason, it was actually inside the ninth dungeon itself). I'd already carved myself out a path to Gannon anyway, but it doesn't hurt to carry around a bit of insurance so I don't get stuck again.

[Sean A.]

@dustin I made it all the way to the mini boss in level 4 with out buying a single key. Maybe you missed picking one up. One thing you could try is when you enter a room kill everything occasionally you might get a key unexpectedly (ie never completely skip a room). Also I don't think that key was wasted, if you don't have the ladder yet you may have some searching to do 

[ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)]

@dustin - i don't think you can do anything at the graveyard yet, until you have a certain item that's in a dungeon you haven't gone to yet. but until then, you could try touching every single gravestone. one of them doesn't work the way all the others do. but there's no real need to do even that, especially since you don't have the item that you need to use on that gravestone yet. and then even when you get the item, find the gravestone, and go inside, you *still* need something else in order for anything to happen; it's a late game thing

[pgil]

Beat level 5, looking for level 6 (I already found it once... I should really print out the map and draw in the blank sections)

[Richard Kain]

and then even when you get the item, find the gravestone, and go inside, you *still* need something else in order for anything to happen

I wasn't aware that an item was necessary for the graveyard. I always just walked up and pushed the gravestone. Never had any problems before.

Yeah, I just checked on a fresh game, you can go straight to that particular graveyard secret from the beginning of the game, no problem.

[ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)]

hmmmm i may be confusing it with something in the second quest then

so nevermind what i said, i guess you can just push the gravestone? that isn't very secret!

[pgil]

Those blue wizard things in level 6 are assholes. And they're not even fun to kill.

edit: Also, I just found a secret stairway under a statue outside level 6... But it just leads to the first room in that dungeon. Is that a bug, or am I missing a super-secret?

[ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)]

i don't think it's a bug, but it's also kind of pointless

the instruction manual said "there may be several entrances into the same dungeon" and i guess it's referring to that. i wish they had done more with that than they did (e.g. have several hidden ways into dungeons, starting you off in different points in a dungeon or something)

[SirNiko]

The way the game is programmed, all entrances on a screen always will lead to the same underground place. In the original game, this only matters for that one dungeon that inexplicably has two entrances (And by matters I mean it doesn't matter, they both are functionally identical). In Zelda Classic games and ROM hacks this quirk is exploited to create one-way tunnels and warps.

The second entrance is just a bizarre relic of the programmers. If it has any significance, it has been lost to history.

[baconman]

I think what it's supposed to be is the link that leads you back outside once you score the Triforce fragment. Unnecessary in Levels like 7/8, since those entrances fit the criteria themselves; and I think in 1/4, they're concealed in the indestructible trees to the side or something to that effect.

They are kind of pointless though, even though it was nifty to discover them.

[Richard Kain]

I've discovered that if you are VERY conservative with your keys, it is actually possible to save up enough of them to see you through Death Mountain without ever getting the magic key. I was half-way through dungeon 8 and sitting on a pile of over 20 keys.

[dustin]

I made it all the way to the mini boss in level 4 with out buying a single key. Maybe you missed picking one up. One thing you could try is when you enter a room kill everything occasionally you might get a key unexpectedly (ie never completely skip a room). Also I don't think that key was wasted, if you don't have the ladder yet you may have some searching to do  

Yeah I must have missed a key somewhere.  I have the ladder and have finished that dungeon but never did figure out that room.  Oh well maybe that's where I missed a key.

@dustin - i don't think you can do anything at the graveyard yet, until you have a certain item that's in a dungeon you haven't gone to yet. but until then, you could try touching every single gravestone. one of them doesn't work the way all the others do. but there's no real need to do even that, especially since you don't have the item that you need to use on that gravestone yet. and then even when you get the item, find the gravestone, and go inside, you *still* need something else in order for anything to happen; it's a late game thing

yeah I actually found the tombstone but I can't figure out how to do anything with it.  I've pushed it from all sides and it doesn't seem to do anything.  Maybe there's more then one tombstone that does nothing, I should check the rest.
edit: just found the second tombstone that does nothing and found the secret.  But I can't pick it up yet!

@pgil
I'm on level 6 also (although I haven't found level 5 yet) and I agree that the blue wizards are nasty.  There magic hurts so much!

[Richard Kain]

Whoof...plowed through the rest of the game. Dungeon 8 and Death Mountain are just as hard as I remember them being.

If you know what you are doing, it is actually quite easy to get the white sword and blue ring before tackling any of the dungeons. With the candle and a few bombs, you can uncover enough rupee secrets and heart containers to get you started. You can also snag the magic sword after beating the 4th dungeon.

[WelcomeToAwesomeness]

just started it up, having a lot of fun so far. i think i discovered a dungeon on an island, but i died right after going in so i don't know for sure. i've never played this game, or any 2d zelda before, so everything is all pretty new to me.

[Tanner]

I've beaten the first dungeon. I'm saving the rest for next week, when I'm on spring break.