next »

[Don Andy]

Glad to hear his book is mostly about his ambition though, I'm sure it will be inspirational if you can cut through the massive ego.

I dunno, if it is majorly about his ambition it might be worth a read, but if the first few lines basically say "In my early childhood I discovered that I have talents beyond that of a normal child and abandoned all social contacts in attempt to pursue these talents" then I don't think I really could bear the rest of the book. Whether it's actually true or not (I'll leave that completely open) I just don't like that way of thinking.

I personally think that people like Derek, Alec or Konjak are the important figures of indie gaming, but I think I'm really just another "generation" of indie gamer, seeing that I've been into the whole thing for maybe a year and really only heard twice of this guy :D
(I'm not saying he is not important, I've just not been exposed enough to him)

Also, lastly, I don't think Bob and MDickie are EXACTLY the same. They're just really similar in terms of ego and ambition. They just have really different ways to....use that ambition. One is mainly using his ambition to market himself and the other is using it to make mediocre games and scoff a the rest of the game making community.

So, please don't try to get into an argument about MDickie is the messiah of indie gaming or not. He may very well be, he just isn't for me

[dessgeega]

is mdickie "scoffing at" the rest of the game making community?

and which game making community, for that matter? there isn't just one homogenous group of people making games. the impression i've always gotten of mdickie, and this is largely why he's such an interesting study, is that he's isolated himself completely from any sort of community.

[ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)]

Derek, Alec and Konjak are important to this specific subset of the indie games community, yes. But fame is relative, on the indiegamer.com messageboards almost nobody has heard of those people. Everyone like to think of tigsource as like the hub of indie games, but it's really not, it's more disperse than that.

Speaking of which, who the heck is "bob"? I've never heard of the guy.

[aeiowu]

Speaking of which, who the heck is "bob"? I've never heard of the guy.

http://www.bobsgame.com/

Glad to hear his book is mostly about his ambition though, I'm sure it will be inspirational if you can cut through the massive ego.

I dunno, if it is majorly about his ambition it might be worth a read, but if the first few lines basically say "In my early childhood I discovered that I have talents beyond that of a normal child and abandoned all social contacts in attempt to pursue these talents" then I don't think I really could bear the rest of the book. Whether it's actually true or not (I'll leave that completely open) I just don't like that way of thinking.

Yea I hear ya. To be clear though, I do think he's a badass for doing all that, and I think it'll make for an interesting read if not for simply partaking in the wonder of entering into someone with that kind of mindset.

But he's got a huge ego, there are plenty of people on Earth with this kind of ambition, or at least something close to it (perhaps not so uncompromising), but he's just loud enough to get press for it. To muse that you're the only person in the world, or to ever exist, that has undertaken a task of a similar breadth is an absolute absurdity. Go to fucking tibet dude, just as much discipline there, if not more.

[ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)]

I just skipped through all the incomprehensible text on that page and went to the video at the bottom -- my impression is that, for a supposedly deep story-based RPG without battles, he spends precious little time actually getting into the story or interaction or dialogue, and instead spends all the time talking about running speed and camera movement and pixel art and how when the character turns it looks smooth. It's funny to see such a focus on its technological achievements and such neglect of what people actually would play the game for when it's a 2D indie game. Of course, it's easy to get wrapped up in that sort of stuff as a game developer, but still.

[Fuzz]

I just skipped through all the incomprehensible text on that page and went to the video at the bottom -- my impression is that, for a supposedly deep story-based RPG without battles, he spends precious little time actually getting into the story or interaction or dialogue, and instead spends all the time talking about running speed and camera movement and pixel art and how when the character turns it looks smooth. It's funny to see such a focus on its technological achievements and such neglect of what people actually would play the game for when it's a 2D indie game. Of course, it's easy to get wrapped up in that sort of stuff as a game developer, but still.

It seems as if "Bob's Game" which he has said nobody has seen other than himself, is actually the game he is playing with you by making you think he is making a game. After all, locking himself in his room? Abducted by aliens? He has also said that HE is the final boss, which in reality is true.

[Don Andy]

Oh well, I guess I could've just written "I hate MDickie", would've gotten me the same answers and saved me some time.

[eddietree]

I'm not the only one who finds the book cover a bit creepy, right?

[fish]

i have no idea who this guy is.

[ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)]

His history / timeline / etc.:

http://mdickie.com/history.htm

[Craig Stern]

"The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering..."
- Bruce Lee

I sense some ego in this dude. Just a little bit.

[KennEH!]

"The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering..."
- Bruce Lee

I sense some ego in this dude. Just a little bit.

What he said is true though. The closest to immortality is to be remembered for all eternity. In such ways Eistein, Lincon and maybe even Lee has gained immortality.

[Shaun]

This is kinda weird. I first got into indie games because of MDickie's stuff, but then started losing interest when he went into 3d. His work was so appealing at first because they allowed you to do things that you would never be able to do in the mainstream alternatives, like throwing you're opponent into a pile of glass and explosives and then shooting them. Otherwise I found his games to be nearly unplayable.   

[Anthony Flack]

Nobody will be remembered for all eternity. Not Bruce Lee, not even MDickie.

[Pacian]

And perhaps he's even doing it self-consciously, as a style, and is secretly humble and decent inside.

Did anyone else read this and think: That's it!

Come on, read the stuff you're quoting in this thread.  Nobody is that hyperbolic for real.

Right?   

[Valter]

Megalomania does not always make that much sense.

[PGGB]

Nobody will be remembered for all eternity. Not Bruce Lee and definitely not MDickie.

/fixed

[KennEH!]

Nobody will be remembered for all eternity. Not Bruce Lee, not even MDickie.

Why do you say that? Jeet Kun Do is a great martial and anyone who learns it enough will learn about its creator Bruce Lee. MDickie on the other hand, no.

[Valter]

Nobody will be remembered for all eternity. Not Bruce Lee, not even MDickie.

Why do you say that? Jeet Kun Do is a great martial and anyone who learns it enough will learn about its creator Bruce Lee. MDickie on the other hand, no.

Entropy is always increasing. Therefore, all existence (and memories of existence) shall eventually cease to be.

[Seth]

Jesus why does everyone always have to be so literal